Microsoft Ordered to Carry Java

An anonymous reader was the 17,232th person to submit that "Microsoft has been ordered to include Sun's Java runtime in Windows. Coverage from AP (via Yahoo), Reuters (via news.com), and, let's say, the BBC."

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Re:A very fair remedy

[Zeinfeld]

J2EE is competing with .NET. Sun is saying (and I think its justified) that .NET has a good chance of beating J2EE not because of technical merits, but because of MS's past illegal

Sun is saying lots of things, that does not make them true.

Sun is the DEC of the 2000s. Its hardware business is stagnant and its software business has no real connection to the hardware. They are under attack from Open Source and from IBM. They are likely to face a very stiff challenge from Apple. However they spend 65% of their time whining about Microsoft.

The guys at Redmond are laughing their asses off at Sun. They are winning the battle and losing the war.

OEMs already have the right under the federal settlement to add Java if they chose. They also have the right under the same settlementto remove components they don't want to ship. What do you think the probability is that Dell and HP will choose to ship the Sun code? They don't think any more of Sun than Microsoft does, they are competitors in the hardware business and the sooner Sun dies the better as far as they are concerned.

I doubt that it will come to that as Microsoft will certainly appeal and the chances of blocking the temporary injunction are pretty good, they can win simply by spinning out the appeal.

Java on the client is a pretty wierd idea. Very few sites have ever used Java. I don't think we will suddenly see a rush to switch from flash to Java on the basis that Microsoft will be shipping the latest version for the next year.

The judgement has no effect on server side java. If you are going to do java on the server you are big enough to load it youself.

So where exactly does this rulling have any effect - except on the size of Scott's ego.

The Sun lawsuit is simply a way for a failed management team to cover up their mistakes while they make good on their exit strategy. They will survive as is for maybe a year or so but in the long term they are going to be bought by IBM once their market cap has settled to a more reasonable level.