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China Forges Ahead With 'Dragon' CPU

Dynamic Drive writes "There's an interesting article on Cnet regarding China's eager attempts to lessen her dependence on foreign technology when it comes to CPUs. The latest endeavor is a homegrown chip named 'Dragon', which apparently is roughly equivalent in speeds to those of Intel chips made between 1995-1997, or 200-260MHz. While I think such an audacious effort is most certainly commendable, I can't help but wonder what the potential things that could go wrong with designing a CPU are, such as software incompatibilities etc." This is the same processor mentioned in September, only now more than 10,000 of the chips have been made.

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  1. Obligatory chinese food joke adaptation by Elphin · · Score: 3, Informative

    The problem with chinese CPUs... ...is that after an hour after you wish ordered another one.

  2. Re:why Dragon? by gli · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes. In the Chinese culture the Dragon represents all mighty power and holiness. The ancient emperors were considered true dragons in human form. However, the Chinese dragon is different from the western world's definition. In western world, a dragon is a dinosaur-like creature with a pair of tiny wings. The Chinese dragon is created by combining all the considered best features found in the real animals. The dragon is the Chinese cultural symbol.

  3. why hate on the clock-speed? by .pentai. · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'd like to start out by noting, as I write this, I'm on a 175mhz machine...an SGI O2 to be exact...

    For a bit more info, I have a p3-1.3ghz, a dual p2 466, amongst a few others...why then do I use this machine? it's my preference, and I can.

    I do everything I need to do in the day on this little 175mhz machine. Why? Because I can. It's non-x86, which for me is a HUGE benefit (such a horrid little architecture...), and is fast enough to run mozilla, X, and whatever apps I need (including Maya for 3d stuff)....

    Before you go saying ya it's an SGI, it's not a PC, NEITHER IS THE DRAGON! It's not a standard mobo w/ 200mhz pentium in there, it's a different cpu, different architecture internally, and may be a lot faster than many of you are assuming...

  4. SVCD faq by t0qer · · Score: 3, Informative

    From the SVCD faq


    • The political objectives of the Chinese government. It
      was decided that DVD - while undoubtedly a good technical specification as
      such - is all too tightly controlled by DVD Consortium, a closed body of
      foreign companies. The Chinese government did not quite like the idea that the
      domestic home electronics industry would have to pay royalties to foreign
      companies in order to manufacture next generation video disc products for
      Chinese people. It was calculated that creating a royalty-free, full-fledged
      video disc format on their own would be a major long-term win for the domestic
      industry. Moreover, this was also considered an issue of national pride; an
      opportunity to flex some technical muscle, and to send a clear signal to the
      outside world that China has enough critical mass to be able to ignore foreign
      entertainment standards it does not want to conform to. (Chinese politicians
      and researchers are now keen to celebrate SVCD as the first international
      high-tech standard that has been developed in China.) Finally, it was also
      thought that a Chinese video disc standard would help in pressuring the DVD
      Consortium to keep the licensing fees down, at least for the Chinese market
      .

  5. Re:Feng Shui by BJH · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sorry, but you're full of shit.

    The word is written the same way in both Japanese and Chinese (Let's see if /. can handle it: ), but it originated in China.

    The pronunciation feng-shui is itself Chinese. The Japanese pronunciation is 'fuusui'. It's been used in China for many hundreds, even thousands, of years, not only architecture, but also for city planning, room layout and decoration, landscaping, and many other situations.

  6. Re:Stunned about this... by epine · · Score: 3, Informative


    So far no one has mentioned IDT, Centaur, or the Winchip. That product was developed by a very small team who shrewdly avoided applying great complexity for small gains. It's not that difficult at all to great price/performance working a couple of litho generations behind the bleeding edge. (That's an optical pun BTW.)

  7. Re:Why not just steal it? Like everything else... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    1.) America called it a spy plane, the American media called it a spy plane, the American government called it a spy plane, and it is a freagging spy plane. If China flew spy planes from Cuba on the coast of US, we'll have the entire Pacific Fleet in a blockade. Hell, China should sell weapons to the Middle East, just like US is selling weapons to Taiwan.
    2.) Got a better solution for a few billion people overpopulation?
    3.) Falung Gong is a cult. You don't see peaceful political movements havingn their followers torch themselves and jump off skyscrapers.

  8. Some clarifications... by francium+de+neobie · · Score: 5, Informative

    It seems that most of the Slashdot population are misinformed about the Godson-I chip...

    1. Although the chip's Chinese name can be translated directly to "Dragon chip", it has an English name "Godson-I"

    2. The chip is manufactured in .18um process. Not the old .25um.

    3. The chip is targetted at the embedded market, it's not going to compete with the current GHz chips like Pentium 4 or Athlon XP. It's not guaranteed for the future Godson generations tho...

    4. Therefore, the chip has an extremely low power consumption, ranging from 0.4W to 1W. (Compare: AXP and P4s -- 50W - 80W). Yes - you can theoretically run 100 or more Godsons simutaneously and they're just consuming the same power as ONE 3GHz P4.

    5. It's an MIPS chip, not X86.

    If you're able to read Chinese, check out the following URL, it gives you a much clearer idea about the chip

    http://www.blxcpu.com/

    and,
    Merry X'mas :)

  9. Re:Military Uses by Mittermeyer · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wanted to make a quick post last night, but yes you are exactly right. Our economics of programming favor brute force CPU to make up for non-optimized code generated from development tools. Hand-coding from someone with brains can give you plenty of power, maybe more with 250 MHz then your typical 2 GHz machine.

    It still amazes little post-1980 born people that I was running payroll for 3000 people on a 4 MHz 256K partition in 1982. It ran in 6 hours, but it ran.

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