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RIAA nominated for "Internet Villain of the Year"

Joey Patterson writes "Slyck reports that the UK's Internet Industry Awards organization has nominated the RIAA for its Internet Villain of the Year award because they support "'right to hack' proposals and other unworkable solutions to curb copyright abuse"." Congratulations to them on being nominated for this prestigious and appropriate award ;)

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  1. Only nominated? by cybrpnk2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean they expect more nominations, and didn't just go ahead and award them the prize?

    1. Re:Only nominated? by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A lot of people on Slashdot seemed to think that Alan Ralsky (the spammer) needed more things. A nomination might be nice too. Another conviction, better!

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  2. I'm going to congratulate them... by smack_attack · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...nah, I'm just going to be complacent about it like everyone else and keep buying CDs. Hooray for unchecked capitalism and industry lobbying.

    1. Re:I'm going to congratulate them... by glwtta · · Score: 3, Funny

      "CDs"? "buying"?

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  3. In other news... by JessLeah · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...the sky has been nominated for the prestigious "Big Blue Thing" award...

  4. But in reality... by aerojad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's sad to realize, that when you step back, all that this will amount to is a good chuckle for the geek community and a *shrug* so what? from the record industry. What needes to happen is for publications on what the RIAA is doing to reach farther than the tech community and get on mainstream news. Of course, for reasons you can already probably figure out, it won't.

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  5. Re:This is getting silly by SoCalChris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does everyone really think the RIAA is evil for not letting people get away with piracy, or is this just the usual wanky groupthink?

    Ok, I'll bite and reply to the troll...

    Piracy is wrong. I agree with them on that. But trying to get legislation passed that would allow you to hack, cripple, and even disable networks and computers that you just think might have copyrighted material on them is worse than piracy in my opinion.

    By your (And the RIAA's) logic, since I own the copyright on this post, and I'm pretty sure it is on your computer since you are probably reading it, I should now be legally allowed to hack your computer and bring it down because you have my copyrighted material on your computer. See why we don't like the RIAA now?

  6. Hi, please read the comment. by Viewsonic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They won the award for hacking into peoples computers, which may or may not be a pirates. Who really knows with IP Spoofing, etc .. For all we know, they could hack into some CIA machine and wipe it out because someone spoofed the address .. Joy of joys. Read a little, would ya? The RIAA is evil, no doubt. But not because of piracy, but because their sales model is failing and they can't see it's obvious that $15 CDs cant compete with feature loaded $15 DVD movies with the soundtracks included as "extras" as an afterthought. They dont want to come to the conclusion that the only way to make money is to sell their music CDs for 5 bux a pop, cuz thats all that they're worth today compared to music based feature rich $15 DVDs.

  7. Re:This is getting silly by VistaBoy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The RIAA is evil because they buy senators and use them to buy laws that restrict our fundamental freedoms like the Fair Use of copyright law. Also, their copy-protected CDs crashed many machines, and destroyed the firmware on many drives. To add to this, the RIAA is NOW trying to get DRM into every media device and is trying to get laws passed that allow them to hack and DoS your computer so that they can keep you from "pirating" their music. Also, let's not forget their journalistic bullshit, like claiming that 4x CD burners are the equivalent of 4 CD burners.

  8. The RIAA won't win this because... by vudufixit · · Score: 5, Funny


    1. It doesn't have a handlebar moustache to twirl
    2. It doesn't shoot its own henchmen to prove how evil it is
    3. It may be incorporated, but it isn't corporeal enough to die of impalement, the default method of bad guy death since the heyday of 70's action films.

    1. Re:The RIAA won't win this because... by RoboOp · · Score: 5, Funny

      In addition...
      4. No volcano fortress.
      5. Hillary Rosen doesn't carry a cat to stroke.
      6. No sharks. But they DO have lawyers with 'frickin laser beams' attached to their heads.

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  9. Whats the prize johnny? by Theros · · Score: 3, Informative

    So who are the other nominees? The nominations are: BBC Watchdog: 'for a report on the important issue of spam that was more intent on vilifying ISP's than educating consumers' The Home Office: 'for the Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security (ATCS) Act and continued delays associated with the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA)' Oftel 'for (amongst a host of other things) failing to ensure expedient local loop unbundling by BT which has hindered both competition in the telco sector and the development of Broadband Britain' The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA): 'for supporting "right to hack" proposals and other unworkable solutions to curb copyright abuse' Telecommunications analysts: 'for their substantial contribution to the meltdown in the telecommunications and Internet sector'

  10. This award sponsored by... by Zigg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ts.com, who "is Europe's leading online ticketing service, enabling venues and promoters throughout the sporting, entertainment and travel industries to sell, market and distribute their tickets directly from their own websites.".

    Anyone want to take bets who won't be getting a lot of contracts with RIAA member-backed acts if the RIAA wins this one?

  11. Re:Why not? by SpoonMeiser · · Score: 3, Funny
    how about:
    /.*(villian of the year)/
    even?
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  12. They are evil for: by Gareman · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Pushing legislation that lets them HACK your computer because of alleged copyright violation.

    2. Grossly inflating their statistics and numbers to boost their reputation. Got a 5x CD burner? It's 5 CD burners according to the RIAA. The mainstream press (i.e., CNN) doesn't know the difference and reports the bogus numbers. They also inflate their losses, neglecting to tell us they cut their production during the same period.

    3. Supporting digitally "protected" CD's that aren't guaranteed to work on your CD player with no recourse if you were stuck with unusable disks.

    4. Driving scientists and researchers out of the US, due to their threatening to sue researchers who wish to expose security vulnerabilities in copy protection (Felten vs. RIAA).

    5. Harassing manufacturers that make digital recordings more portable, like in the Diamond Rio(RIAA v. Diamond).

    6. Harassing ISP's like AT&T and Optimum Online (successfully) for allowing P2P networks to exist.

    etc. 7.

  13. Re:This is getting silly by SlowMovingTarget · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pardon me for speaking for many on /. but:

    We don't think they're evil, we think they are greedy. Most of the RIAA's actions toward computer and consumer electronics technology have been driven by a desire to control their customers. Many of the industry's business plans were built around locking in customers to pay-per-use media distribution schemes or straight CD sales.

    Recently, they've tumbled to the fact that campaign contributions can cause legislation to skew in their favor. They've "requested" laws that make fair use illegal, and require that disabling technologies be embedded in any consumer device. Essentially, they've asked the U.S. government to create a "safe" market for them.

    There's a precendent for this: RCA attacking, then coopting the whole television thing out from under Farnsworth (television's inventor).

    The RIAA's actions do little to prevent piracy. For example, the measures asked for only apply to the U.S. electronics market, and the most serious piracy happens overseas, in China. China's suppliers will not manufacture devices for that market that include crippled features when it is cheaper to manufacture and sell devices with all the features enabled. The manufacturers would be forced to add the technology to sell in the U.S., but they'd simply raise the price a notch or two to compensate.

    The RIAA's moves are bad for consumers, and especially bad for computer-literate folks like those at /. Evil? Perhaps not, but very, very greedy.

  14. In Soviet Russia by jwilcox154 · · Score: 5, Funny

    RIAA nominates You for "Internet Villian of the Year"

    Oh,

    Wait a second, that's this country, never mind.

  15. Re:This is getting silly by CakerX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This isn;t about stopping software piracy, this is about authority. The RIAA as a private company has no authority to do that, and it should stay that way. Any enforcement of copyright violations should be delt with by the goverment, and ONLY the goverment, which has been elected by the people and for the people. The RIAA is not a goverment agency and therefor has NO LEGAL RIGHT TO law enforcement.

    Even if it was the secret service, they still need a warrant from a judge. The new law would give the RIAA Jurisdiction to be cop, judge, and jurry over the internet.

  16. For those who post without reading the article by ninewands · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The nominations are:

    BBC Watchdog: 'for a report on the important issue of spam that was more intent on vilifying ISP's than educating consumers'

    The Home Office: 'for the Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security (ATCS) Act and continued delays associated with the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA)'

    Oftel: 'for (amongst a host of other things) failing to ensure expedient local loop unbundling by BT which has hindered both competition in the telco sector and the development of Broadband Britain'

    The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA): 'for supporting "right to hack" proposals and other unworkable solutions to curb copyright abuse'

    Telecommunications analysts: 'for their substantial contribution to the meltdown in the telecommunications and Internet sector'

    That really is a nasty group of suspects, but we might want to add:

    John Poindexter: 'for attempting to destroy world-wide privacy.'

    The United States Congress (both houses): 'for (among too many other offenses to list in detail) passing the PATRIOT Act and other privacy-invading and security-compromising legislation that will be completely ineffective in stopping terrorism.'

    1. Re:For those who post without reading the article by WPIDalamar · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'd have to go ahead and vote for Congress. They passed the PATRIOT act AND the DMCA, and refuse to do anything about ICANN.

    2. Re:For those who post without reading the article by Klaruz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe if we're lucky congress would win and this will get some press. Maybe then congress will realize they're destroying one of the largest industries in the country so they can pander to the puny entertainment industry. Along with that whole taking away freedom thing. A wake up call like that award could maybe help a bit.

      Then again, maybe not...

      It's gonna suck in a decade or two when the entire computer industry has moved to a a free country and talking about moving out of the US to get a job will get me thrown in jail as a terrorist.

  17. an idea whose time has come? by fermion · · Score: 5, Insightful
    First, the RIAA member companies as businesses have the right to charge for and protect product as they wish, within the limitations of the law. The association has been convicted of price fixing, and may be in violation of certain laws by labeling non-CD plastic disc products as CD's. They are also probably moraly wrong in their desire to hack. However, as is the case with most anti-terror legislation, we in the U.S. have been made so afraid by the rhetoric of our politician, reality shows, and newspapers that we are willing to give up any rights if we are allowed to hide behind our bricked in subdivisions and drive our SUVs. As such, giving the right to hack to the RIAA may be a small price to pay if we are allowed to continue to listen to Britney Spears, who likely would not exist without the RIAA.

    However, ultimately, the success of a business depends on it's customers. If we buy RIAA CDs, even as used products, we support their methods. If we go out, find other music, and purchase those non-RIAA CDs, we support an alternate model that depends on quality and personal customer service, not mass appeal and copy protection. There is no way to legislate the RIAA from destroying the right of fair use anymore than there was a way to legislate Wal-Mart from destroying main street. In both cases, the presence of customers determines success.

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  18. Re:new villians on the block by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "boris and natasha are going to be pissed."

    Nah. After the collapse of the communist bloc, they had their names legally changed to "Jack Valenti" and "Hillary Rosen."

  19. If it were only that simple by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ". If we buy RIAA CDs, even as used products, we support their methods. "

    It has been my experience that many independant/small artists get there first "distribution"(usually self made) from small 'used' music stores. If we didn't buy Used stuff from them, they wouldn't be able to support themselves as a Business, and then there would be even fewer outlets for independent/small artists to become 'known'.
    OTOH it has also been my experience that artist who complain about the riaa's methods would happily accept a contract with them. If the people creating the content won't bite the bullet and use alternative means so they don't get screwed, how can the consumers be expected to boycott?
    the only way to fix this is to create a music production/distibution company that doesn't enforce the draconian methods on the artists the current music companies do, and to entice signings by giving a higher percentage of sales, and not lovking them into more then 2 or 3 records per contract.
    Of course that means:
    a)low to no signing bonus
    b)musicians will have to actual have a track record of sales before they become rich.
    c)Huge start up capital.

    I consider both a and b to be good for music and consumers, but not to enticing to the big name musicians.

    *Bold added by me

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  20. The REAL villain of the year... by _bug_ · · Score: 4, Funny

    anyone who posted a link to goatse.cx

  21. 2002 by rjamestaylor · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Maybe 2002 will be remembered as the year that the RIAA began to unravel. This year the RIAA has been exposed as a self-profiting organization--not caring for the artist or the consumer but for the pockets of the "radio execs." Maybe 2002 will be the year that the heretofore unknown consortium became a household byword. This is Not Good becuase the RIAA stands as an unpopular middleman between two parties that want each other: artists and their public. Common everyday folk in America began to understand in 2002 that the RIAA doesn't represent the ARTIST but the RECORDING STUDIO and RECORD LABEL. What happens when two parties are attracted together (say a lovely teenage girl and a handsome teenage boy) but are restricted in contact by a third party (say a domineering dad)? At first the girl may appreciate the protection of her dad, but the desire will grow so that the daughter and boyfriend will seek a channel of communication without the father's interference.

    Maybe in 2003 the girl and boy begin sneaking around to date behind the father's back (via limited direct distributions direct from the artist's website?). How long until the couple are enagaged (using the Internet to directly market the music?)? The question is, will the father walk the daughter down the aisle or will the couple elope?

    In 2002, the public began to dislike the RIAA. I predict wedding bells by 2006.

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    1. Re:2002 by SuperDuG · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Well here's what really gets me about the MPAA and RIAA. This is an industry of complete capitalistic control (lets face it entertainment has a whole lotta money), but even more strange is that in this "dog-eat-dog" society that these groups are able to get along.

      I think what everyone needs to remember is a rather funny quote "remember even your closest friend will sell you out for the price of a extra value meal". They'll go to battle destroy each other, and the bottom feeders are looking to pick up what pieces fall. Many people are still there to make great albums or movies, but in the wake of Britney Spears and NSync along with "The Hot Chick" and "Analyze That" these aren't things that will "make history" or even be remembered in 3 years, but look at Lord of The Rings or quite a few bands out there today Incubus, Foo Fighters, and many more.

      People will get tired of the bullshit, and when that time comes, change will come. The MPAA and RIAA are fueled by lack of alternative entertainment, as is true for even the computer world. But as has been proven in the past, you can only be king of the hill for so long before you get knocked off.

      Good Post BTW

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  22. A Humble Suggestion by Badgerman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why isn't Slashdot doing this? Let's have a Slashdot villain of the year contest.

    Yeah, we can joke. We KNOW one of the nominees will be CowboyNeil. But in all seriousness, perhaps this is another way Slashdot can do some good. Have people suggest villains, send the reasons why, and the most popular and best-explained ones go up.

    Sure, it may seem silly, but today, on the net, a little spectacle and some humor can break down barriers and make a point.

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  23. Re:This is getting silly by EzInKy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I couldn't agree with you more...assuming that everyone who uses your product is going to steal it is one of the most irritatingly exasperating stances an organization can take. I just today had a real world experience of that very nature at Best Buy purchasing a DVD player as a present for my daughter's family.

    I went through the check out lane, paid for my purchase, had the player in my cart and looking at the receipt on my way out the door when a kid on a power trip in a yellow tee-shirt comes up to me demanding to see the perfectly visible receipt. I said no and continued walking towards the door and he took the damn DVD player out of my cart and said "then you don't get this!"

    Talk about pissed...I did end up showing him the receipt, got MY Dvd player back and headed straight for the return counter. Of course, the lines there were long, and I just said fuck it and left with the player.

    The power trip the kid at Best Buy today was on is the same power trip that the RIAA is on. It's about control and subjugation to their will.

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  24. Re:To: RIAA by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought that was Grandma? And I think Santa would spell his own name correctly (for some reason I typed that as Satan the first time - freudian (sp?) slip?). Anyhow, here's a better one - course, it's a parody so I doubt Santa is entitled to any money:

    The Night Santa Went Crazy by "Weird Al" Yankovic
    Down in the workshop all the elves were makin' toys
    For the good Gentile girls and the good Gentile boys
    When the boss busted in, nearly scared 'em half to death
    Had a rifle in his hands and cheap whiskey on his breath
    From his beard to his boots he was covered with ammo
    Like a big fat drunk disgruntled Yuletide Rambo
    And he smiled as he said with a twinkle in his eye,
    "Merry Christmas to all... now you're all gonna die!"

    The night Santa went crazy
    The night St. Nick went insane
    Realized he'd been gettin' a raw deal
    Something finally must have snapped in his brain

    Well, the workshop is gone now he decided to bomb it
    Everywhere you'll find pieces of Cupid and Comet
    And he tied up his helpers and he held the elves hostage
    And he ground up poor Rudolph into reindeer sausage
    He got Dancer and Prancer with an old German Luger
    And he slashed up Dasher just like Freddie Krueger
    And he picked up a flamethrower and he barbequed Blitzen
    And he took a big bite and said, "It tastes just like chicken!"

    The night Santa went crazy
    The night Kris Kringle went nuts
    Now you can hardly walk around the North Pole
    Without steppin' in reindeer guts

    There's the National Guard and the F.B.I.
    There's a van from the Eyewitness News
    and helicopters circlin' 'round in the sky
    And the bullets are flyin', the body count's risin'
    and everyone's dyin' to know, oh Santa, why?
    My my my my my my
    You used to be such a jolly guy

    Yes, Virginia, now Santa's doing time
    In a federal prison for his infamous crime
    Hey, little friend, now don't you cry no more tears
    He'll be out with good behavior in 700 more years
    But now Vixen's in therapy
    and Donner's still nervous
    And the elves all got jobs
    working for the postal service
    And they say Mrs. Claus,
    she's on the phone every night
    With her lawyer negotiating the movie rights

    They're talkin' 'bout - the night Santa went crazy
    The night St. Nicholas flipped
    Broke his back for some milk and cookies
    Sounds to me like he was tired of gettin' gypped

    Wo, the night Santa went crazy
    The night St. Nick went insane
    Realized he'd been gettin' a raw deal
    Something finally must have snapped in his brain
    Wo, something finally must have
    snapped in his brain
    Tell ya, something finally must have
    snapped... in his brain

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  25. Re:new villians on the block by Guppy06 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not to toot my own horn or anything, but perhaps Boris & Natasha would be a good icon for a new MPAA/RIAA category.

  26. Re:new villians on the block by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 3, Funny
    Hey, Rocky! Watch me download a tune of the 'net.

    Awww Bullwinkle, that trick never works!

    Presto!

    (click) RRRROOOOAAAARRRR!

    No doubt about it, Rock. MS audio stinks.

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  27. Sadly the nomination resulted in an indictment by gelfling · · Score: 3, Funny

    But on the upside when RIAA came to the podium to accept it's award it was struck with 200 trillion tons of flaming shit sent down from heaven.