What Can You Do w/ 170,000 DirecTV DSL Gateways?

An anonymous reader asks: "I'm sure everyone here is already aware of the impending demise of DirecTV DSL. The latest twist is that, apparently, they're not going to want subs to return the DSL gateways, at least that's the buzz in the DSL Reports DirecTV DSL forum. If true, this means that we'll have around 170,000 of these things floating around, just begging to live again in some other capacity. So, what can be done with them? Seems a shame to let such neat little boxes go to waste. Does anyone care to come up with some creative ideas on how to hack them and make them do something useful?"

Comments

Make a beowulf cluster

[anthony_dipierro]

of DirecTV DSL gateways, of course.

simple..

[Anonymous Coward]

um, cup holder?

I have an idea

[Anonymous Coward]

Someone could setup a DSL company (perhaps a satelite company), and use them to provide DSL internet access to their customers. Sounds crazy, but I think it might just work.

Re:I have an idea

[DA-MAN]

It didn't work the first time around, that's why we got this problem now!

Mod's rule!

[Anonymous Coward]

It's 2:18 Christmas morning, there are 4 comments on this story, and their moderation totals to 2. Quick, mod me down! Maybe this whole story can have negative moderation!

Specifications

[Drakon]

these babies are 50 mhz PPCs with 4 megs of ram and 16 megs of flash
they have an ethernet port (rj45) and a DSL port (rj11) and a USB port
I'm not sure if I can add more capacity, and I won't check until the thing stops working :-(
LinuxPPC :-)

Re:Specifications

[Anonymous Coward]

hahaha... Best Sig ever!

This one's too easy

[Anonymous Coward]

1. Gimp up a legit looking "Postage to be Paid by Addressee" RMA tag

2. Get 170,000 people to print out a copy and box up their DSL gateway

3. Send 170,000 DSL gateways to Hughes/DirecTV, postage-due, with a "Thanks for cutting off my DSL, you insensitive clod" note attached.

Of course, this would be mail fraud, so I'm not actually suggesting it or anything :)

Have fun with export controls

[Anonymous Coward]

I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll find some export control rules covering these; probably encryption, but if not that I'm sure there is something else.

File paperwork indicating that you want to export these to North Korea, or Iraq. Slashdot the export control department, and watch the government try to justify why these can't be exported.

Use them with the next DSL provider.

[mcgroarty]

Before trashing the things or getting overly clever, first hunt around a bit. Many different DSL providers use the same hardware, and you may be able to skip a startup fee while still opting out of a contract if you can find another provider who uses them.

If these models have a password for remote configuration, it would also be a good idea to try and land that for yourselves before the ISP goes tits up for good. Band together to bribe a techie. I'm sure one of their support dudes who's about to be out of work anyway could be bought if you round up a couple hundred bucks. :)

Keep using them for DSL service

[I Am The Owl]

I thought this was rather obvious. Just plug them into another phone line and pirate a stray DSL signal. I believe they run through all lines in the PSTN, so you shouldn't have much trouble logging on. I've done this with my cable modem once or twice, no sweat.

Re:Keep using them for DSL service

[DSL-Admin]

I'm not familar with these devices, but the EN5851 SDSL routers have the capibility to turn themselves in to CO and Client devices. You can take two 5851's and put them on Copper pair upto 17K/ft and not need a DSLAM, CO Eq, etc. One SDSL router will be in CO mode, and the other in normal CPE mode. You can then link two places together over your own private SDSL carrier. IF you can do this with these two, then the statement about the college dorm would be great. Get SWB to run a couple Copper Pairs to your house from him (if you're not that far) and then bind them together (yes you can, if you don't think you can you're an idiot) with an Advanced LAN/WAN router, and you've just made your own private DSL...

Can't be done.

[-dsr-]

DSL isn't a shared medium, bucko. Each PSTN line gets provisioned to a central office, and from there is either sent to an ISP-specific aggregator or a CO-aggregator that sends each connection off to an ISP-specific aggregator.

Now, these boxes could probably be reprogrammed to act as DSL gateways for another service -- but you would need to get an ISP to reprovision the line to your house.

Assuming you can boot Linux/PPC or NetBSD on them, you could use them as high-speed links on dry pairs. Either run your own wiring, or get the telco to string you an "alarm circuit" from point to point.

Re:Can't be done.

[Finni]

In Connecticut, SNET (the local telco) no longer sells a service that guarantees that a LADA circuit will be over actual copper. If you get one, it could be over pure copper today, and tomorrow part of the run could be digital; which of course leaves you crap out of luck.

can you imagine....

[kputnam]

a beowulf cluster of these?

We just need to wait.

[base3]

Surely, a disaffected ex-employee (or ex-contractor) will be anonymously posting the magic incantations and/or passwords for administering the routers shortly. Assuming there's actually anything to administer.

Step 1

[Apreche]

Step 1 - Find nearby University
Step 2 - Check to see if their internet connection is adequate. (OC3 should be enough)
Step 3 - Pay freshman in the dorms to keep a computer in his room and never touch it. Pay him the 20$ a month you usually pay for your ISP.
Step 4 - Two nics in the pc, one on the college network. It should work automatically with DHCP. The other nic in a DSL modem. Use something like Mandrake Security and install a PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet) server.
Step 5 - Connect to your personal DSL service from home using something like Enternet. Yes, they make Enternet for linux.

Not sure how well it would work, but there are lots of sites that tell you how to roll your own DSL. We though of doing this because one day we're going to have to leave college and our internet connection will suck! T1 for us!

Re:Step 1

[zonker]

nice idea but a few problems...

firstly, it is likely that the university will have fiber lines as well as their own phone switch which will pretty much negate the possibility of getting dsl to work in the first place.

secondly, campuses are starting to keep a closer eye on what you are using that connection for. this kid will be responsible for your actions. for example, if they have a no-filesharing rule or other such abuse policy restrictions, and you aren't aware of it you could get him in trouble...

a possible solution to the first problem would be to setup a wifi network, assuming that isn't against campus computer rules, and a nice antenna that can toss the signal far enough away, towards your house...

Re:Step 1

[bluecalix]

Step 1 - steal underpants.

Step 3 - profit.

Re:Step 1

[pyite]

Step 6 - Stop using buzzwords. PPPoE is such a horrible, horrible invention and a waste. On top of that, there's absolutely no reason for it. At all. Why would you ever use it?

I have enough crap

[redog]

I have the password to my box and it is a neet box but hardly worth keeping unless another ISP uses the "telocity" method. The only network service on mine is a little webserver with an admin interface that allows you to change the route(NIC, USB, parallel), reboot it , download configuration, erase downloaded configuration, or Erase Delta Image...
Anyone care to tell me how to write a delta image, or what it is anyway.

Even though the admin interface has parallel as an option My box has no parallel port, but if you open it up the board has a spot for one if you care to solder it on.
I was working on replaceing the box with a Linux router since telocity actualy gave 2 static ip's for $50 a month.

Eat them

[Guy Harris]

DirectTV won't be around to complain, so bon appetit!