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Machines That Emulate The Human Brain

prostoalex writes "Discover magazine provides an interesting insight into the future technologies that will emulate the human brain. While artificial intelligence supporters always considered direct emulation of brain functions too complex and preferred the top-down approach, some people are researching the ways human brain processes data. One of the interesting discoveries, mentioned in the article, is ability of the brain to re-architect the links as new information is added."

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  1. how do we get them drunk? by spike666 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    if we want to analyse how alcohol impairs our thinking, how do we get these things drunk?

  2. The question is of course ... by watzinaneihm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What would the machine do if it were intelligent enough? Men/women atleast would do things that make 'em happy. What can a machine be happy about?
    Also if this rewiring theory is true, we could just put in nano-radios into the head of a zillion bees and put in a nice enough routing algorithm then the bee colony would be an intelligent being ,right? ( assuming that a bee's brains are equivalent to a small cluster of human brain ?) . Now would the bees still look for honey more itelligently? or would they find the grand unified theory?

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  3. is it just me ... by josephgrossberg · · Score: 2, Insightful

    or are the four facial expressions analyzed:

    smirk, smirk, smirk, smirk

    ?

  4. Utterly self-serving link by JanneM · · Score: 2
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  5. Idly thinking... by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is there an inverse Turing test?

    Maybe we can make machines that fail it.

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  6. Re:There's no ghost in the machine... by Transcendent · · Score: 2

    Even if the sheer processing capability could be duplicated, at a similar scale, with similar power requirements, with today's technologies there is still no true intelligence in the circuitry that is as flexible as the mind...

    That makes no sense. Basically you said "Even if we could replicate it, we couldn't do it with our technology."

    How do you program or develop electronic logic like that? Into mobile, autonomous units capable of effective action?

    It's called neural networks... AL (artificial life). They simulate the neuron connections in a brain... If you replicate a brain well enough, it will have the same function as the original.

    ...didn't you read anything?

  7. Re:There's no ghost in the machine... by CodeShark · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Bad grammar/wording on my part. Try it this way:

    Even if we could replicate the sheer processing power of the human brain at similar power levels, and make it mobile, our current circuitry and programming paradigms still don't offer a technologic basis for the kind of split second decisions..." followed by the remainder of my post.

    BTW, I am very aware of neural networks, and even some chip technologies based on modeling neurons. But there's nothing in the silicon that implicitly decides which particular version of a neuronal circuit might be useful, and what weird alternate connections it should make. Nor how to implicitly attempt to self-heal around a known bad connection, etc. like the biologic based computer does. All of that has to be developed fairly explicitly by an intelligent entity, also known as the human brain.

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  8. Top down vs. Bottom up by Fly · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This article talks to people who are doing mostly or solely bottom-up work to emulate brain activities, and poo-poos the work that has been done on top-down approaches. While I don't think anyone can refute the need to do low-level bottom-up reverse-engineering to understand how our brains work, I agree with Hofstadter, et al. in _Fluid_Concepts_&_Creative_Analogies_ that there needs to be a fundamental change in the direction of top-down approaches.

    I am intrigued by his work in combining the top-down and bottom-up work with his "codelets" design which relies on probabalistic results from a bottom-up approach that are weighted and driven in a more top-down manner. This higher-level approach is meant to simulate "mind" rather than "brain", but I'm eager to see just how far towards "mind" the neural approach in the article can be taken.

    [youmaynotcare]It's cool to see McCormick in an AI article. My first course from him was AI, and it fascinated me.[/youmaynotcare]

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  9. A better idea... by budalite · · Score: 3, Funny

    Geez, surely we can do better! Most of the ones currently in production seem to be defective!!
    (Get me that guy that figured out what was wrong with HAL...)

  10. Oh great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    First it was the H-1B's taking our jobs, and now artificial brains. I should've been a dancer.

    1. Re:Oh great! by Alsee · · Score: 2

      I should've been a dancer.

      Your legs are too fat.

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  11. Re:There's no ghost in the machine... by Transcendent · · Score: 2

    Nor how to implicitly attempt to self-heal around a known bad connection, etc. like the biologic based computer does.

    Starbridge Systems. They developed a hyper computer that was self healing... you shot a bullet through any one of its motherboards and it would reconfigure itself to work around it. I've been lookin on their site for it (www.starbridgesystems.com), but they've done some remodeling of their site over the years and technical descriptions like that can't be found as easily.

  12. good idea. by jericho4.0 · · Score: 2
    The approach mentioned of disecting a mouse brain neuron by neuron and modeling it is very interesting. I don't think anyone has ever approched it from such a reductionist angle before. Even doing this for a small section of brain (say the visual cortex) would probably provide some interesting information.

    It seems that this could be capable of showing if there's more than just the neurons involved.

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  13. 29 comments and no one... by ShavenYak · · Score: 2

    ... has quoted the Orange Catholic Bible? "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind."

    I'm ashamed of you people.

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  14. rofl... by rakslice · · Score: 2

    If I'm feeding the troll, too bad; at least it's a philosophical one.

    "which can make split-second decisions (good or bad) based on literally thousands of experiences and factors -- without requiring a "full data set" in order to arrive at the "best decision"."

    That's an obvious contradiction in terms, isn't it? ...

    "How do you program or develop electronic logic like that? Into mobile, autonomous units capable of effective action?"

    Well, see, we've got these things called stored-program computers... =)
    Do I have to finish that sentence, or do you see what I'm getting at?

    You're awfully good at jumping up and down and telling us that you don't know the answer, but what's the point of that?

    Anyway, is there some hidden meaning here I'm not getting?

  15. Re:re architect? by rakslice · · Score: 2

    Is "architect" even a verb? I always see it being used in contexts where "design" would be much more appropriate, and it's starting to really piss me off.