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Tom's Hardware Reviews Xbox Live

VividU writes "Tom's Hardware has a review of Xbox Live." Also includes a bit of a summary of the state of networked gaming on the other 2 major consoles (Coleco and Intellivision). A good read if you're looking to see what's going to keep you glued to your couch in 2003.

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  1. From the article: by unterderbrucke · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Like everything Microsoft has done, Xbox Live is done, and done well"

    Well, I can name at least one instance this isn't true. Anyone remember the unmitigated disaster that Windows 95 was? They had 5 years to work on it, and it was still extremely buggy. We were all starving for a nicer GUI back then though, so all the problems with that launch tend to be overlooked.

  2. ps2 network adaptor by asv108 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, I prefer the way Sony is handling online play with the PS2 network adaptor. There is no centralized service for all games, and at least right now there are no subscription fees for most if not all of the current games.

  3. Not appropriate for my household. by standards · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I do own an X-Box... a good gaming console.

    But the showstopper for me is two-fold: The lack of a dial-up option (not everyone has a cable modem accessibility yet!), and the fact that, by license, it appropriate for use with "kids under 13".

    Both of those are show-stoppers for my household.

    So, it looks like the Nintendo would have been a better choice for my household in the long-term: 56k dialup option, and more games for everyone (a better mix of "mature" and "everyone" titles).

    Oh well, maybe MS will fix these issues before things really get rolling!

    1. Re:Not appropriate for my household. by GeorgeH · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the "kids under 13" rule is in order to comply with the COPPA which forbids collecting information online from children under 13. But then again, this is slashdot so you can safely assume I'm talking out of my ass.

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    2. Re:Not appropriate for my household. by Moofie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That did not seem to be the parent poster's contention.

      How many kid-appropriate titles does Nintendo have? Lots.

      How many kid-appropriate titles does xBox have? Zero.

      Therefore, Nintendo is the more kid appropriate console. All those nasty games don't come in the box, you see...

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  4. Re:In the first week of X-Box live by John+Jorsett · · Score: 5, Insightful
    150,000 people gave Microsoft their credit card number and agreed to be billed a to-be-decided amount indefinitely, until they figure out how to cancel it [snip]

    Does this worry anybody else?

    It would me. I remember the conversation I had with my credit card company when I couldn't get through to AOL to cancel my account. They told me that even if I switched card numbers AOL would automatically be transferred with it and continue to bill me. If I cancelled the card, I'd still be liable for ongoing charges due to my 'agreement' with AOL. I finally had to wait on hold for 45 minutes to get through to AOL in person. It's like having the mafia after you. One guess whether MSFT will follow the same model.

  5. His comment. by hackwrench · · Score: 2, Insightful

    His comment did not say that X-Box Live was poorly tested or filled with pervasive bugs. He was merely pointing out that you can not draw the conclusion that things must have gone fairly smoothly from the premise that Microsoft is rolling out the service, and it is evel less certain given Microsoft's history of rolling out products that have been poorly tested or filled with bugs.

  6. misinfo by djupedal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Been playing PS2 SOCOM U.S. Navy Seals online for a week with no subscription required. Took just minutes to set up and join an ongoing session (and there was a long list of games in progress and locales to choose from). No problems and right into play. The game was $60.00 and included a headset. Seals is DVD/ProLogic Surround, and with the PS2 connected to a home theater, the sound and interactivy is impressive, not to mention the game play itself. Being able to talk to other players via the headset adds to the realism.

    Please stop spreading misinformation/FUD. You're just repeating something you heard elsewhere.

    Everyone knows MS is looking to profit from subscription based services. That doesn't mean there aren't other business models and options out there, and it doesn't mean that fee based gaming is the only way to play. There are many, many choices...not all require monthly fees, and fees never guarantee you'll be happy with the experience.

  7. Re:Xbox seems to have the upper hand in this by Juggle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gee, I Must be confused. I had a friends PS2 on loan for a few weeks and could swear I was playing on-line games free.

    THPS3 and 4 both support on-line play without the sonly network adaptor (they support most USB ethernet connectors including the one I had laying around) and don't require any kind of subscription since individual players run their own servers much like PC based multi-player gaming. The game included Gamespy based code to find on-line games and it worked flawlessly.

    In fact one other thing the PS2 supports that apparantly Xbox dosen't (since it was a complaint in this review) is the use of a USB keyboard. I grabbed my own keyboard ( a MS natural no less) tossed on the PS/2->USB adapter it came with, plugged it into the PS2 and was able to enter my game info that way instead of using the controller - saved a lot of time and made chatting in-game possible without a headset.

    I also have to agree with the other posters who want to know why the built-in ethernet is such a benefit when you still have to pay to use it on-line and then keep paying (an unspecified ammount no less) on a regular basis to keep using it. I like the pay once for the hardware model of the PS2 way more in that regard. But then again I always prefered buying my own cable or satellie box instead of paying a monthly "rental" fee as well.

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  8. Re:Online Console Gaming = Big flop. by rmohr02 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Then why don't you hook up your computer to your widescreen TV and your surround sound?