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Russian Student Arrested For Revealing DirecTV Secrets

An anonymous reader writes "The Associated Press is reporting the arrest of Igor Serebryany, 19, of Los Angeles for industrial espionage under the Economic Espionage Act of 1996. Serebryany is accused of providing details of DirecTVs 'P4' card technology to a number of websites."

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  1. Corporate Espionage Act by rootmonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "It prohibits anyone from disclosing trade secrets for economic benefit, and carries penalties in this case up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Although investigators acknowledge that Serebryany apparently didn't profit from the disclosures, the law bars giving away secrets for anyone else's economic benefit. "

    Will the charges hold up under this act?

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  2. The weakest link in security by bobdotorg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yet anoher example of the weakest link in security being the human link.

    I've followed DirecTv's skirmishes with hackers for a few years and have always believed that Dave's (DirecTV / NDS) house of cards would crumble from the inside. It's simply a matter of how many people have access to the keys.

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  3. Re:Sounds about right. by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Interesting
    And by the way, since we're speaking about industrial espionage, is ESR's involvement with the Haloween memos - which presumably he received from a Microsoft employee and published - industrial espionage? I think technically it might be, although MS has more to lose from charging him than it does from leaving him alone. Unless, of course, they are delibrate leaks.

    Bruce

  4. DirecTV and me by dl248 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As a Canadian who has a DirectTV dish and receiver and loves watching "grey market" TV, I hope there are more guys like him at DirectTV. Sure dealers of the hardware and those in the US are getting arrested in droves, but the Canadian end-user is apparently never bothered by the law.

    What I do isn't in the moral good-books, but I can't imagine paying for the piles of crappy programming that are offered by DirectTV or the Canadian equivilants -- I watch the NHL games the the occasional movie, and would pay a reasonable fee to do it above-board, but I can't seriously imagine shelling out hundreds per month to do it.

    FYI -- Canadians CAN'T subscribe to DirectTV due to Canadian laws, as the government feels that we should be using the alternatives in our own country. However that doesn't stop a wackload of people from watching "grey-market" TV -- it isn't illegal, but you can't actually legally subscribe to it. It's really a very strange situation.

  5. Big Discrepancy by LinuxHam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, maybe not *that* big, but ABC News is reporting that he actually worked for a digital IMAGING company that was contracted out by the law firm to create digital copies of these sensitive docs. Adjust arguments appropriately knowing that he didn't work for the law firm.

    Sometimes it helps to search for alternative versions of the story.

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  6. Re:Sounds about right. by afidel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    breach of an NDA is a tort, or civil penalty. What he did goes beyond that and is industrial espionage, which is a criminal charge. I can break an NDA without commiting industrial espionage and only have to pay whatever monetary penalties a judge orders. This is similar to OJ being found not guilty of the criminal charge of murder but responsible for wrongfull death, he serves no jail time but he does have to pay the families of the victims a very large sum of money.

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  7. Nobody makes the Robin Hood argument here? by djembe2k · · Score: 5, Interesting
    OK, I guess I'll make this argument, even if I don't entirely believe it, because I've read almost every comment to this story to this point, and nobody else is.

    Lots of people are saying "He broke the law, so fry him", but you don't really mean that, because the consensus around here is that some folks who break some laws (i.e. bad laws, laws we don't like) are heroes who don't deserve frying. But this law is a law preventing theft, and since we all agree that theft is bad, and we don't want our stuff stolen, we basically like this law.

    But in this case, what he stole was a description of technology that is going to be used to stifle the flow of information. Somebody could argue that this property doesn't deserve to be protected from theft, and that anybody who steals from the information-rich to give to the information-poor doesn't deserve to be punished.

    If this doesn't prove that the law is bad in general, it proves that this application of this law is protecting an unjust institutionalized system of information as property, when information isn't and shouldn't be treated as property.

    If you treat this as an act of civil disobedience, in the style of MLK, then let the system arrest and punish the guy, so that the system reveals its own injustice to anybody who happens to be watching.

    I'm not sure I buy it myself, but I think it is a serious argument to consider, and so I'll throw it out there, since nobody else seems to be.

    1. Re:Nobody makes the Robin Hood argument here? by Zathrus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What a load of crap.

      DirecTV and EchoStar pay a hefty sum annually to the FCC for the right to broadcast in that spectrum. It is not being "stolen". It's being regulated. Get it right.

      Since both DirecTV and EchoStar do minimal (if any) sell through advertising, and finance most of the cost of buying systems, they have no revenue stream if they don't charge for the use of their service. Don't want to pay? Then don't use the service. It's not being forced on you, and it's but one of several options you have for television -- including the choice of opting out entirely.

  8. Re:My beef is... by Sentry21 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    And yet despite that, the RCMP has said that they will not be actively prosecuting people who do this. They might confiscate your dish if you make some huge deal out of it, putting up 'fuck the po-lice' signs on your lawn and raising a 'DirectTV Piracy 4 Life' flag over your house, but they honestly don't care one way or the other. You can't go through official channels, but if you break the law, well then shame on you.

    A lot of people might say 'yeah, they say that, but...', and to them I say, if you've lived where I've lived, you'd know that it's impossible to NOT see DirectTV dishes all over the place, from public property, and the RCMP could be throwing fines left and right. Despite this, no one's said a thing. Curious, no? This is just the Supreme Court defending the local broadcasters (Starchoice/Bell) in principle, and encouraging people to support local (national) business, but nothing more.

    --Dan