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Watching The Watchers Watching You, Continued.

A reader writes:"After a SF Weekly column on DARPA's TIA, attention has turned to the Poindexter Family house. Using legal/public means groups are finding and publishing Alan's phone numbers, address, etc."Those with access to DMV and criminal records databases, credit card records, telephone bills, tax records, birth and death and marriage records, medical records, and similar personally identifiable databases could combine their information publicly to assist in the demonstration." Some seem to trust in TIA's benevolence, but I believe otherwise. Perhaps it is already too late? At least I can rest assured HumanID isn't operational. Yet. "

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  1. T.I.A. = Totally Ignorant Acceptance by Garry+Anderson · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Quote from the U.S. Defense advanced Research Projects Agency:

    "The goal of the Total Information Awareness (TIA) program is to revolutionize the ability of the United States to detect, classify and identify foreign terrorists -- and decipher their plans -- and thereby enable the U.S. to take timely action to successfully preempt and defeat terrorist acts."

    They want to, quote: "identify foreign terrorists" - what rubbish. They KNOW you are American citizen, not even a suspect foreigner - yet want to know what you buy, where you travel - everything. They want to profile you, like a criminal. I find it hard to believe that U.S. politicians are that dumb - to go along with this violation of the American Peoples Rights. Looks like TIA initials stand for Totally Ignorant Acceptance (of propaganda).

    I have said this many times - and have yet to hear reasoned argument against it:->

    Ask Security Services in the US, UK, Indonesia (Bali) or anywhere for that matter, to deny this:

    Internet surveillance, using Echelon, Carnivore or back doors in encryption, will not stop terrorists communicating by other means - most especially face to face or personal courier.

    Terrorists will have to do that, or they will be caught!

    Perhaps using mobile when absolutely essential, saying - Meet you in the pub Monday (meaning, human bomb to target A), or Tuesday (target B) or Sunday (abort).

    The Internet has become a tool for government to snoop on their people - 24/7.

    The terrorism argument is a dummy - total bull*.

    INTERNET SURVEILLANCE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STOP TERRORISTS - THAT IS SPIN AND PROPAGANDA

    This propaganda is for several reasons, including: a) making you feel safer b) to say the government are doing something and c) the more malicious motive of privacy invasion.

    Government say about surveillance - you've nothing to fear - if you are not breaking the law

    This argument is made to pressure people into acquiescence - else appear guilty of hiding something illegal.

    It does not address the real reason why they want this information (which they will deny) - they want a surveillance society.

    They wish to invade your basic human right to privacy. This is like having somebody watching everything you do - all your personal thoughts, hopes and fears will be open to them.

    This is everything - including phone calls and interactive TV. Quote from ZDNET: Whether you're just accessing a Web site, placing a phone call, watching TV or developing a Web service, sometime in the not to distant future, virtually all such transactions will converge around Internet Protocols.

    "Why should I worry? I do not care if they know what I do in my own home", you may foolishly say. Or, just as dumbly, "They will not be interested in anything I do".

    This information will be held about you until the authorities need it for anything at all. Like, for example, here in UK when government looked for dirt on individuals of Paddington crash survivors group. It was led by badly injured Pam Warren. She had over 20 operations after the 1999 rail crash (which killed 31 and injured many).

    This group had fought for better and safer railways - all by legal means. By all accounts a group of fine outstanding people - with good intent.

    So what was their crime, to deserve this investigation?

    It was just for showing up members of government to be the incompetents they were.

    As usual, government tried to put a different spin on the story when they were found out. Even so, their intent was obvious - they wanted to use this information as propaganda - to smear the character of these good People.

    Our honourable government would rather defile the character of its citizens - rather than address their reasonable concerns.

    The government arrogantly presume this group of citizens would not worry about having their privacy invaded.

    They can also check your outgoings match your income and that you are paying enough tax. What do you think all this privacy invasion is for? The War on Terrorism? You poor dupe.

    All your finances for them to scrutinize; heaven help you if you cannot account for every cent.

    The authorities try make everything they say sound perfectly reasonable.

    e.g. Officials from US Defence Department agency have said that they want, the same level of accountability in cyberspace that we now have in the physical world.

    Do government currently keep records of everything that you touch in the physical world to analyse?

    No they do not. So then, is that the same level of accountability?

    They wish to keep an electronic tag on you, like some kind of animal. Actually it is even worse than this - like some pervert sex offender - a child molester that they have to keep track of. Would any person of intelligence call that accountability?

    Do not believe the lies of Government - even more of your money spent on these measures will not protect us from terrorists. Every argument they use is subterfuge - pure spin.

    Here in UK, the RIP Act is unjust - dim-witted ill-informed MPs believed governments 'experts'. Remember - they will get everything about you, your phone calls, emails, TV viewing - everything. It would be like having a spy living in your house.

    Americans - the Total Information Awareness plan, USA Patriot act and Homeland Defence - you are more technologically aware, are you really that easily misled?

    Garry Anderson

    P.S. Did you know the the United States Department of Commerce and United Nations World Intellectual Property Organization LIED, when they said there was no solution to trademark conflict with domain names?

    They are dishonourable cowards. The UN Organization, who deal with these conflicts, use WIPO.org - I use VERY similar URL - please visit.

    1. Re:T.I.A. = Totally Ignorant Acceptance by duffbeer703 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "So, this is a bad thing? That is, do you think only foreigners should be profiled for possible links to terrorism?"

      The Intelligence services are not permitted to spy on us citizens. This is why the FBI (a police organization) was tasked with counter-intelligence duties in the US. If you think intelligence services should have a free hand to spy on citizens, you have a screw loose.

      US citizens have a right to due process by virtue of their citizenship.

      "Oh, I see. US citizens ought to be able to commit tax evasion without fear of getting caught too. Gr00vy!"

      This is why TIA is bad. Its use will expand beyond terrorism, and idiots such as yourself will thump your chest and say "Awesome!" when you see evil tax-evaders and stamp counterfeiters get arrested on the Discovery channel.

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      Conformity is the jailer of freedom and enemy of growth. -JFK