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Conan the Bacterium

An anonymous reader writes "The world's toughest organism, able to withstand thousands of time more radiation than a human, is reported by the Weizmann Institute to have its secret to survival as a tightly packed DNA ring. Their Science article indicates that radiation-induced breakages are held tightly packed rather than floating off into the intracellular fluid. The bacteria,Deinococcus radiodurans, was discovered decades ago in canned food that was sterilized using radiation. Red patches appeared in the cans - colonies of the bacterium - setting off questions as to how it could have survived."

34 comments

  1. NExt up: by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 5, Funny

    They can have a sample of the chlorox resistant mildew in my shower. I think its started feeding on the bleach, rather than being harmed by it.

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  2. I can only hope... by jpsst34 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... that this stuff doesn't get too close to my homebrew.

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  3. minor nit by tps12 · · Score: 0, Troll

    The plural of "bacteria" is actually not "bacterium," but rather "bacterii" (analogous to "virii").

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    1. Re:minor nit by evilquaker · · Score: 1
      The plural of "bacteria" is actually not "bacterium," but rather "bacterii" (analogous to "virii").

      Considering that the plural of virus isn't "virii" (where would the extra 'i' come from anyway?), I don't think your argument holds much merit...

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    2. Re:minor nit by Lochin+Rabbar · · Score: 4, Funny

      The plural of "bacteria" is actually not "bacterium," but rather "bacterii" (analogous to "virii").

      Bullshitii

      Bacteria is the plural of bacterium.

    3. Re:minor nit by trentfoley · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Feeding the troll...

      The plural of "bacteria" is "bacteria". The singular form of "bacteria" is "bacterium". Try a dictionary, either paper or on-line.

      I'm not even going to touch the "virii" thing. I think calling yourself a "minor nit" is an understatement.

    4. Re:minor nit by MacAndrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If I were a metasnob, I'd say I'm pretty sure the fancy plural for virus (lit. "poison") would be viri. No cause for "ii".

      But viri is probably wrong. The "i" for plural thing turns out to be a product of some grammarian's fundamental misunderstanding of word derivations. Read this re the most famous example, octopus/octopi/octopoda/octopuses. In brief, "pus" means foot and it makes no sense to hack it up to make a plural.

      Ever wonder why flammable and inflammable are synonymous? Same thing -- a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

      As for bacteria -- that's already plural. Bacterium is singular. (I think. :)

    5. Re:minor nit by aberson · · Score: 1

      "Inflammable
      means flammable?! Boy, what a country."

    6. Re:minor nit by lostboy2 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Out of curiosity, I checked with the OED Online and here's what it has to say:

      b. Pl. viruses. An infectious organism that is usu. submicroscopic, can multiply only inside certain living host cells (in many cases causing disease) and is now understood to be a non-cellular structure lacking any intrinsic metabolism and usually comprising a DNA or RNA core inside a protein coat
      So, I guess it's "viruses" after all.

    7. Re:minor nit by MacAndrew · · Score: 2

      The OED -- do you subscribe? I've only been able to get it to give me the "word of the day." I have an OED Shorter, but I was too lazy to open it for this silliness.

      Apparently there IS a Latin plural word "viri" but it wasn't popular even with the people who spoke Latin. A good argument I read somewhere is that because virus is now an English word, make the plural in the English way -- add "es".

      Really, do what works. I have to remind myself to drop octopi. It's fun to out-snob a snob, though. :)

    8. Re:minor nit by lostboy2 · · Score: 2

      The OED -- do you subscribe?

      I work at an educational institution so we get it for free. It's a bummer though because I can't use it at home. Oh well.

      Personally, I wouldn't have guessed that the official plural form would be "viruses", it sounds too much like "walruses" to me.

    9. Re:minor nit by MacAndrew · · Score: 1

      I work at an educational institution so we get it for free.

      I hate you.

      If I had it in electronic form I know I'd waste all kinds of time browsing. The paper version is not quite so diverting, which for me is a good thing.

      I see the CD-ROM is down to $295. One-fourth that and Mac compatibility, I'd be interested.... Heck, if they cut the price they might make *more* money. On the other hand, how many people have heard of the thing?

      it sounds too much like "walruses" to me.

      Um, you prefer ... walri?

      Interesting that viruses and bacteria, which people confuse anyway, both have confusing pluralization rules.

    10. Re:minor nit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "i" for plural thing turns out to be a product of some grammarian's fundamental misunderstanding of word derivations.

      In cases like octopus, yes, since it has Greek origins. However this doesn't hold for virus since it is ripped straight from the Latin. It is commonly held that the plural is virii in analogy with radii (which IS the correct plural). But the original Latin "virus" couldn't be used in a plural form, so it is somewhat silly to use the Latin rules when doing so gives you a meaningless word in Latin.

      Bacterium is the singular and bacteria is plural, just like equilibrium/equilibria (second declension neuter).

    11. Re:minor nit by Ironica · · Score: 2

      The OED -- do you subscribe?

      As a resident of Los Angeles, I'm eligible for an LAPL Library card. With that, I can go to their website, punch in my card number and ZIP code, and go through their subscription to the OED and other fantastic things... from home.

      Libraries are so underrated. ;-)

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    12. Re:minor nit by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      I vote "viron"

  4. Conan the Librarian by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 2

    The reference, in case you didn't get it, is from this: Conan the Librarian

    1. Re:Conan the Librarian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Librarian? I'd believe barbarian before that.

    2. Re:Conan the Librarian by hplasm · · Score: 1

      Conan the Barbarian Conan the Destroyer Conan the Submarine Conan the Aircraft Carrier Conan the Heavy Cruiser etc, etc.

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  5. Re:Conan the Librarian? by MacAndrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What's wrong with Conan the Barbarian? It's even alliterative, and alludes to survivorship. But you knew this

    I like that the name "radiodurans" encapsulates literally the bacteria's claim to fame. How about "Radioduran the Radical"?

    "The red bacterium can withstand 1.5 million rads-a thousand times more than any other life form on Earth and three thousand that of humans" -- do they mean all life forms complex and bacteria plus other single-celled organisms? If so, I would indeed wonder whether this bacteria came from somewhere else ... but if it has ancient origins, isn't it odd it didn't evolve away from mechianisms designed for an absent danger, which I assume entail some cost to the organism? The writer does mention the resistance might be good for drought also. Fascinating.

  6. Now all we have to do is... by monopole · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...inject it into Keith Ritchards and see if it survives!

  7. Evolve away? by Jammer@CMH · · Score: 1
    Evolve away? How?

    Not that they're immune from evolution, but I'd imagine that a species with a much lower mutation rate than normal is not going to change very often.

  8. Then surely by Tensor · · Score: 2

    these are the best bacteria to store information in. altho is 1000x human rad resistance that good ? what is cockroaches' rating ?

  9. Numerical Comparisons by skwang · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For a numerical comparison I found some rough numbers for what other living organisms can survive. The unit of radiation used is a Gray, which is the unit used to measure the absorbed dosage of radiation. It does not tell relate the biological effects of that radiation.

    These numbers are ones I received from a radiation safety lecture at CERN. I can't vouch for the authenticity of the numbers. But remember, they are obtained from non-controlled experiments (like nuclear accidents) and are an estimates of the amount of dosage needed to kill said organism.

    • Animal________Grays(Gy)
    • Sheep_________1.6
    • Donkey________1.6
    • Swine_________2.0
    • Goat__________2.3
    • Dog___________2.7
    • Man__________2.7,2.4,2.3 (depending on study)
    • Rabbit_________8.4
    • Rat___________9.0
    • Mouse________11-12
    • Desert Mouse__13-15
    • Frog_________30
    • Snail_________200
    • Amoeba_______3000

    Now according to the Science magazine article, the bacteria, Deinococcus radiodurans can stand up to 15,000 Gy of radiation!

    1. Re:Numerical Comparisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There is a researcher at my university who works with D. radiodurans. His favorite picture to show is a petri dish of happily growing bacteria next to the pyrex beaker they were previously irradiated in. The radiation they were subjected to was so intense the glass beaker is discolored and brittle - but the bacteria survived.

  10. Conan the Bacterium by oyenstikker · · Score: 2

    Hey. I read an article by that title about this when I was in high school. That was at least 4 years ago. Thats old news, even by /. standards.

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  11. Funny?!?! WTF?!? I aint kidding. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 2

    Really!! THis shit anit affected by bleach anymore.

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  12. OED by MacAndrew · · Score: 1

    You can trust I'll be mentioning this to MY library! The LOC should offer something like this, though I shudder to guess what the licensing would cost.

  13. Bacterion in Greek, bacterium in fake Latin by bfinuc · · Score: 1

    The Latin ending -um (neuter singular) replaces the Greek -on when Latin borrows Greek words. But Bacterium (meaning "walking stick") wasn't really ever Latin. It got taken directly from the Greek and by convention switched to -um long after Latin was in affect dead. The neuter plural in both languages (For this declension) is -a

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    1. Re:Bacterion in Greek, bacterium in fake Latin by MacAndrew · · Score: 1

      Hey, I took French. And German.

      I think generally questions like this should governed by rules of the sdopting language, English. Different rules for different root languages are just unfair, as I see teaching my son to spell!

  14. Grammar Nits Make Me Laugh by Effugas · · Score: 2

    So much acrimony over a technology invented by children...

    What? You don't realize language is designed by kids? Go study the formation of new ones, usually the result of multiple societies being crammed together by the latest political upheaval. The parents make the pidgin, which is pretty terrible. The kids make the creole, which is astonishingly correct.

    It's not that Virii is right or wrong. It's that Viruses is inconvenient to speak -- it adds a redundant syllable, especially if you try to tack on possession (viruses' make write nicely, but vi-ruh-sis-izz-izz is a nightmare).

    We need a better way to say this, but we don't have a good way of converting "-us" into a plural. So we try -ii, based off what we saw happen in, er, some word somewhere -- perhapps based on symmetry with the i early in virus. But lots of other people call bullshit(ii), and demand justification and reasoning and bla bla bla.

    Whatever. It's all made by kids to make it easy to say stuff. Quit acting like the world is going to come to and end if it's not precisely like the way a bunch of dead people spoke :)

    --Dan

    1. Re:Grammar Nits Make Me Laugh by MacAndrew · · Score: 1

      Well ... here the fun thing is that after-the-fact grammarians come up with rules to browbeat other with, then turn out to be wrong. That you "can't" split infinitives is another one. I used to do a lot of editing, and was sensitive to which rules were real and useful.

      I assume viri was never a popular term in the decades we actually known about them. Octopi is just plain dumb. :)

  15. The cost of this feature? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    As remarkable a feature as this is, there surely must be a metabolism cost. It would be interesting to see the matabolism efficiency scores next to the radiation scores.

  16. now, all I need is a gene by guest12 · · Score: 1

    a gene transplant therapy from this tough little bug, and I've got it made. here I come, wheres the red button.