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Mandrake Releases 9.1b1, New Packaging Model
DCowern writes "Mandrake today announced version 9.1 of their distribution. While there are some interesting choices for new packages (like kernel 2.4.21pre2 and XFree86 4.3 beta) the most groundbreaking thing about this release is the way in which they decide which packages are "high priority" for development and inclusion in the standard install. Any registered user at MandrakeClub can vote. Their opinion is that no one knows where development effort needs to be spent better than the end-user." Update: 01/10 19:38 GMT by T : That's "distribution."
You just gotta love these release numbers2.1a
Just the day after I downloaded 3 SUSE CD's from a 56K....
Nobody knows what they did after that, but now they're making a profit.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
You have friends???
>> It caused crashes (Grip for whatever reason seamed to lock up the desktop), problems (not working on reiserFS), more crashes (NVidia drivers crash when rendering 3D continuiously)
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Designing by vote isn't a bad idea at all. A number of comments I see on /. are to the tune of "If only (project X) had (feature y) it would be perfect". Or with M$-related postings, "If only (application X) didn't have (feature y) it would be better".
Let's say the Mandrake folks love Python and want it to install *instead* of Perl by default in their distro. That's fine -- it's there distro. But potentially if you ask the users you might find it's a different story about what they want.
Simple equation:
Many users = popular
Few users = unpopular
Note this doesn't mean good or bad, just popular. If the goal is more Linux and less Windows, popular is just as (if not more) important than technical merit.
Shades of Mickey..
All together now!
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MandrakeClub!
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Who's the leetest of the groups that's made for you and me?
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Trolling is a art,
You mean those Debian guys let you tell them what packages you like without having to pay for the privilege?
Must be a bunch of damn commies, I tell ya.
I'll have something intelligent to add one of these days...
I just don't get you mandrake naysayers. Have you tried Mandrake 9.0? You don't have to use KDE or Gnome, it's right there in the install. The following tips will surely change a few of your minds:
.xinitrc file in your home directory. Put "exec icewm", "exec fluxbox" or whatever you like for your window manager in it.
a ke/9.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz
a ke/9.0/contrib/RPMS with synthesis.hdlist2.cz
1. During installation, select "advanced" installation, rather than the default.
2. Be sure to add "Other Window Managers" in addition to KDE & Gnome
3. Make the selection during install that DOESN'T start X on bootup.
4. After installation, put a
5. use urpmi.remove to get rid of the CD sources for package installation:
urpmi.removemedia "Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1)"
urpmi.removemedia "Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2)"
urpmi.removemedia "International CD (x86) (cdrom3)"
and replace them with an FTP source:
urpmi.addmedia base-ftp ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandr
and add the contrib source:
urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandr
so it never ever prompts you for CDs (assuming you've got broadband)
Add the plf software source:
urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://plf.chem.yorku.ca/pub/plf/9.0 with hdlist.cz
Now, you can install just about anything you like with a simple "urpmi {package name}". For instance, if you want mutt, and you're also missing a lot of its dependencies, "urpmi mutt" will not only get mutt, but it will first get whatever is needed for mutt to run. FreeBSD addicts can surely appreciate that (ala the freebsd ports system).
I've been running MDK9.0 since the day it was out of beta and have never had these buggy problems that some of you complain about. No window manager problems (I use fluxbox), no nvidia problems (I've played many a LAN party with my box, never had a crash during crunch time yet), no problems of any kind.
You boneheads should give it a chance before blasting it. Don't try to use it as if it were some kind of RedHat clone, it's moved way beyond that in the last couple of years.
Wow, it practically installs itself!
No, I'm sure it was Solaris that brought linux to the masses.
sic transit gloria mundi
Silly man, no one actually USES Linux for their desktop! They only dual-boot with it so they can act cool.
Foo requires blah, blah, blah. Foo sucks.
No wonder foo is a bigger joke than bar.
Bar sucks.
Why do I get the impression the only reason you replied was so you could make a derisive comment about Power Macs? You make one valid point, but you kill your credibility so soundly with your wrap-up...
Hey gang, I've notice a peculiar change to the familiar MAN pages on the new version of Mandrake. I wanted to look up some SMP stuff so I typed "MAN kernel" (I'm a bit rusty), and got a weird error. "Syntax now WOman " This sounded strange to me but I though meh... I tell you, these new WOman pages are terrible! It used to be like "MAN automount" and then you've got your information. I typed "WOman kernel". Now this is weird, it said, "If you don't know what's wrong, I'm not going to tell you." I thought this was some kind of joke. I had some time, so I low-levelled and installed it again. I got the same..uh.. error? Anyways, I was able to get MAN SMP to work in the console with root access, but it didn't really get to the point, it was ambiguous, and generally frustrating to deal with. I eventually gave up and climbed in a bottle of Dubonnet red. Anyone else have any WOman problems with Mandrake 9.1b ?