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Mandrake Releases 9.1b1, New Packaging Model

DCowern writes "Mandrake today announced version 9.1 of their distribution. While there are some interesting choices for new packages (like kernel 2.4.21pre2 and XFree86 4.3 beta) the most groundbreaking thing about this release is the way in which they decide which packages are "high priority" for development and inclusion in the standard install. Any registered user at MandrakeClub can vote. Their opinion is that no one knows where development effort needs to be spent better than the end-user." Update: 01/10 19:38 GMT by T : That's "distribution."

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  1. We all need to thank Mandrake by Amsterdam+Vallon · · Score: 5, Informative

    They brought Linux out from the dusty closets of computer hackers and to the front lines -- of the American economy, that is.

    Mandrake is now sold pre-loaded on millions of inexpensive, high-quality computers at Wal-Mart stores country-wide.

    Before you diss this newbie-tailored distro, remember that it really was Mandrake, and not Red Hat, Solaris, or Slackware that brought Linux to the masses.

    Business Week, Forbes, and the Wall Street Journal all write about Linux based largely in part on the inclusion of Mandrake on many popular-selling computers.

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  2. Re:Confused? by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 5, Informative

    they're releasing a new version of mandrake linux and they're cutting things out of the desktop distro so that it'll fit on one CD. they've set up a poll for all mandrake users to pick and choose which features they want to ship on the CD.

    This is a pretty cool idea. I don't use mandrake, so it does me no good, but the concept is really awesome. build up a community and then let the community drive the development and implementation of the product. this should serve as a great example of what the people with the money should be doing in the open source communities.

    of course having *everything* would be nice, also. but you can always download the extra features you want/need.

  3. Oh thank you God by Gyorg_Lavode · · Score: 5, Informative
    Mandrake 9.0 was the windowsME of linux. It had nice looks, but added little and caused nothing but troubles for me. I'm really hoping that Mandrake 9.1 resolves most of the problems I had. Also, I'm looking forward to XFree86 4.3.

    Don't get me wrong. My favorite distro is still mandrake 8.2. It was excellent, but Mandrake 9 didn't do anything for me. It caused crashes (Grip for whatever reason seamed to lock up the desktop), problems (not working on reiserFS), more crashes (NVidia drivers crash when rendering 3D continuiously), bad organization mistakes (why in the world separate out package installation and removal), and many other things. But I've always liked mandrake and am really hoping that 9.1 clears up the problems and increases the extras including the great. up-to-date, package selection. I support distro's I like which is why I'm part of the mandrake club and I am really hoping this one continues to improve.

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  4. Debian has this to. by jonestor · · Score: 5, Informative

    Debian has this to. It's called Popularity Contest.

  5. Mandrake Naysayers by hogger · · Score: 5, Informative

    I just don't get you mandrake naysayers. Have you tried Mandrake 9.0? You don't have to use KDE or Gnome, it's right there in the install. The following tips will surely change a few of your minds:

    1. During installation, select "advanced" installation, rather than the default.

    2. Be sure to add "Other Window Managers" in addition to KDE & Gnome

    3. Make the selection during install that DOESN'T start X on bootup.

    4. After installation, put a .xinitrc file in your home directory. Put "exec icewm", "exec fluxbox" or whatever you like for your window manager in it.

    5. use urpmi.remove to get rid of the CD sources for package installation:

    urpmi.removemedia "Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1)"
    urpmi.removemedia "Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2)"
    urpmi.removemedia "International CD (x86) (cdrom3)"

    and replace them with an FTP source:
    urpmi.addmedia base-ftp ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandra ke/9.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz

    and add the contrib source:
    urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://mirrors.secsup.org/pub/linux/mandrake/Mandra ke/9.0/contrib/RPMS with synthesis.hdlist2.cz

    so it never ever prompts you for CDs (assuming you've got broadband)

    Add the plf software source:
    urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://plf.chem.yorku.ca/pub/plf/9.0 with hdlist.cz

    Now, you can install just about anything you like with a simple "urpmi {package name}". For instance, if you want mutt, and you're also missing a lot of its dependencies, "urpmi mutt" will not only get mutt, but it will first get whatever is needed for mutt to run. FreeBSD addicts can surely appreciate that (ala the freebsd ports system).

    I've been running MDK9.0 since the day it was out of beta and have never had these buggy problems that some of you complain about. No window manager problems (I use fluxbox), no nvidia problems (I've played many a LAN party with my box, never had a crash during crunch time yet), no problems of any kind.

    You boneheads should give it a chance before blasting it. Don't try to use it as if it were some kind of RedHat clone, it's moved way beyond that in the last couple of years.