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Safari Beta Updated

Jack Kennedy writes "Apple has released Safari 1.0 Beta v51. Unfortunately, Apple don't list what the update addresses; according to Apple, 'this Safari Update is recommended for all Safari users.' Dave Hyatt's Weblog provides a more detailed account of what issues Apple have addressed over the past few days."

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  1. Re:What does this one do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Safari Beta v51.. now with 10% less Rhinoceros gorings.

  2. Re:Much more stable. by whee · · Score: 5, Informative
    Actually, it appears Microsoft has their own version of the lameness filter. If you first enable the Safari Debug menu with defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1 in Terminal.app, and then change the User Agent to MSIE 6.0, Hotmail will work fine.

    Safari can definately handle Hotmail, but the UA checking is holding it back.

  3. Re:Much more stable. by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 5, Informative

    Huh, okay I see that now. Here's why I do: type "hotmail.com" in the address bar. Enter user name and password. Get the JavaScript error. Type "hotmail.com" in the address bar again. This time I'm just asked for my password. Enter it. Get right in to my mailbox.

    Try that workaround. Meanwhile, I've put in a bug report on your behalf.

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    I write in my journal
  4. hmmm... by Dr.+Awktagon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The bugs I reported haven't been fixed:

    * HTTPS doesn't work at all for me over a proxy. I think it is using SSL to talk to the proxy which isn't right. It should connect to the proxy in the clear and then issue a CONNECT and then use SSL. Anybody seen this one?

    * "don't use proxy for these hosts/domains" setting is treated as hosts only (so if you put in "foo.com" then you visit "www2.ecommerce.foo.com" the proxy gets used anyway).

    * keychain entries of the form "http://host.com:80" are ignored, and it adds its own "http://host.com" entry.

    Anybody notice any concrete differences?

  5. minimum font size support! by frankie · · Score: 5, Informative
    Blatantly cribbed from MacOSXHints.com. Edit the file ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Safari.plist and add two new siblings to the XML tree:
    • WebKitMinimumFixedFontSize
    • WebKitMinimumFontSize
    Follow the same format as WebKitDefaultFontSize and it will work exactly as you'd expect.
  6. The biggest change by andfarm · · Score: 5, Informative
    Apple claims to have fixed that nasty bug with wiped $HOME directories and deleted /tmp->/private/tmp links. Reason enough for me to download it.

    (This comment posted with Safari)

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    TANSTAAFI: There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free iPod.

  7. Re:Unfortunately still no tabs by babbage · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Here's an idea: let's re-evaluate what you *really* want the software to do here. Is it really the case that you need tabs, or can it more accurately be said that you just want some form of a multiple document interface [MDI]. If the latter is correct -- and for me, it is -- then are tabs (as implemented in the Gecko family of browsers) the best or only way to do this? Or are there other, possibly better ways to get to the same goal?

    It occurs to me that a better -- and arguably more "Cocoa-ish" -- way to present this would be a tray interface, like what you see in Mail.app. Seen this way, you could have a hierarchy of widgets in the tray, including:

    • currently open pages (the tabs, as available in Mozilla etc)
    • bookmarked links & folders of links
    • history links
    • "scrapbook" page[s]?

    If presented this way, you could browse open documents and bookmarks much as you can browse mail folders in Mail.app. If items in the tray could be browsed with "flippy triangles" (like in the Finder's list view), then you could zoom in on different kinds of URLs quickly. Plus, having a tray interface might even buy you enough screen real estate that you could even have thumbnail versions of some or all pages in the collection. Neat, huh?

    Personally, I agree with everyone that's asking for tabbed browsing, but only to the extent that I think that the web is easier to browse in a MDI style. But the more I think about this tray idea, the less I think that simple tabs is the best way to present this information. Trays. They're IMO the coolest & most innovative part of the Aqua interface, and they really aren't implemented all that often. This seems to me like a perfect place to introduce a tray interface, and if Apple decides to add a MDI option to Safari, my hope is that this is how they'll implement it.

    If you agree that this is a good idea, please do as I've done and submit the idea as feedback to Apple with Safari's bug reporter widget, or by using the bug reporter on Apple's site (sorry, I forget the url offhand). Now is the time to let them know what features you would hope for... :)

  8. Re:.fm by kalidasa · · Score: 5, Informative

    All dialects, including those who developed in England, are incorrect. Most dialectic differences were develloped by illiterate people. There is a correct way to use plurals in English which is well-documented, and it does not matter where you are from.

    This is misinformation. All dialects are correct, in that all dialects are self consistent with their own sytaxes and vocabularies. One can speak of the standard dialects, for instance, Received Standard Southern British, which is the canonical British dialect for public discourse, and Standard American English, which is the canonical American dialect for public discourse, or . Another widely used dialect in the United States is African-American Vernacular English, which is sometimes called by linguists Standard African American English, and politically sometimes called "ebonics" and distinguished as a different language by well-meaning idiots who have no background in linguistics.

    If one wishes to take part in public discourse, particularly in print, and especially "learned" discourse, it is necessary to learn one of the standard dialects, and it is helpful to learn more than one (e.g., both the American and British standard dialects). If one wishes to converse with persons from other regions that speak English and be sure to understand them, it is helpful to know something about the non-standard dialects which we all use (for instance, The Jargon File is in part a dictionary of a particular non-standard dialect used by self-identified "hackers," and like all dialects, its use is part of that process of self-identification).

    One's speech can be incorrect with reference to a particular dialect; for example, one who speaks of a cracker as a "hacker" is not speaking in correct hacker dialect, and is thus identifying himself (or herself) as a poser (i.e., is unintentionally emphasizing an false affectation). Thus one can, in the schools (one of whose primary purposes is the teaching of the local standard dialect), speak of right or wrong use of plurals, in reference to that standard dialect. But one cannot apply the rules from one dialect to others and necessarily identify what are right or wrong uses correctly. Indeed, this is a case in which the American and British standard dialects differ; if one says "Apple is," one is identifying oneself as an American or a wannabee; if one says "Apple are," one is identifying oneself as a Brit/Canadian/etc. (I think this is the usage in the various Commonwealth countries) or a Brit wannabee.

    Here's an excellent thread on a linguists list that talks a little bit about prestige or canonical dialects and standards.

    I leave the enumeration of the number of different dialects intentionally used in this posting as an exercise to the reader, though I point out that it is an exercise intended to show how shifts in dialect can change one's sense of the "identity" of a writer/speaker.