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RFID: The New Big Brother ?

Makarand writes "The possibility that we could be tracked not because we have a microchip implant but merely because we wear clothes, eat and carry objects around is real according to this article on C|net news. A technology called RFID (radio frequency identification) consisting of miniscule microchips the size of a single grain of sand that listen to a radio query and respond by transmitting their unique ID can make this possible. Most RFID tags use the power from the initial radio signal to transmit their response and hence can be placed anywhere imaginable. Retailers are adoring this concept and soon everything more expensive than a Snickers bar will sport RFID tags making tracking possible through our own personal possessions. The privacy threat comes when RFID tags remain active once you leave a store and currently the RFID industry seems to be giving 'mixed' signals about whether the tags will be disabled or left enabled by default."

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  1. Good for the environment by CrazyJoel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you find a Snickers wrapper on the ground you could read its RFID and track it back to the person who bought it and fine him for littering.

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  2. cool by tps12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is actually just what I've been wishing for. You know when you've misplaced something in your house (my favorite pencil, for a recent example from my own life, though "house" is maybe being charitable), and you spend hours tearing everything apart and then it turns out that it's just lying there somewhere in plain sight?

    I always wish, both during and after such a quest, that I could have just whipped out a tricorder (or device of a similar form factor) and scanned for whatever I'm missing, and it would start beeping or blinking on the screen or whatever. It would save hours of time for all but the most type A people.

    It would also be a boon on the golf course. And for finding your kids when they wander off at Disneyland. Really, all I can think about is good applications of this technology, so bring it on!

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  3. Defense by tiedyejeremy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Topless Bars and Horsetracks will likely be the first places to devise RFID shields, offering safe havens for their customers!

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  4. Another way to go. by Absurd+Being · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Coat yourself with hundreds of thousands of the little tags. A chaotic radio shout in reply to a sensing whisper should make the devices less than usefull. Bury these buggers in information.

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    1. Re:Another way to go. by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Also, note that the only people who are going to build receivers that do this are people who are INTERESTED in tracking you. Having a jamming device like this is going to advertise "I have something to hide" to anybody who looks at the logs. (Not that this SHOULD be the case, but the fact is that it will be - just like sending PGP'ed email while that isn't the norm

      Indeed. As a signal intel analyst in the army, the fact that a certain TYPE of encryption was being used was often more important than the content of the message. When an East German armor regiment sent out a message using a code way too sophisticated for your average east german comms soldier, you knew there were Soviet Army bigwigs there with their OWN comms guys. "Intelligence" folks work at all different levels, so you have to be careful not only of what you say, but also what you DON'T say, and also WHEN you say it...

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  5. They are in your tires now... by swordboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    RFID Tires

    Imagine the possibilities... There's a video on that site for anyone willing to dig. I'd rather not slashdot it (28 megs). This technology was initially used to ship and track tires as a replacement to the old bar codes, but now, the boys in the tinfoil hats are detecting RFID activity on the freeways and border crossings...

    Auto manufacturers are programming the VIN number into the tire at assembly. It is only a matter of time before this becomes a requirement.

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  6. Um... what's the big deal? by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wow, so someone will know I'm wearing Timberland boots, Dockers pants, Oakley sunglasses, and an Izod shirt.

    They won't know my name, address, phone number, age, social security number, sexual preference, number of pets, or marital status.

    So what the hell's the big deal? Or are we all just being slash-paranoid?

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  7. Re:Simple enough... by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This would actually work!

    I used to own a computer store, and we had problems when we had a "flaky" motherboard that would boot but was unreliable, and was still under warranty.

    The distributor would set it up, see it do something, and send it back to us. To fix this, we'd put it into a microwave oven for 3 seconds before shipping it back.

    That'd cook the chips on the motherboard without leaving any visible sign of problems. It would then show no signs of working, and they'd give us a whole new motherboard, and everybody was happy.

    Worked for RAM chips, video cards, sound cards, modems, etc. although we had the most trouble with motherboards.

    So why is this "funny"? Should be "informative"...

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  8. Re:Now let's not get carried away by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and if they are NOT deactivated when you purchase it it will foul up all their "plans" for automated purchasing that detects what you have in your cart as you pass through.. Hmm. I see you are buying a pair of levis 1 pair of red-heart BVD's, a set of 13DDD nikes, and a 3X budwiser t-shirt with a bright yellow jacket and a gallon of milk. that will be $147.96 please...

    "I'm just buying a gallon of milk! what the hell!!!"

    if they dont deativate them at purchase... it will mess up all of their plans.

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  9. Re:Lojack for Dogs by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah. For pets, there's someone (the owner) who has a legitimate reason for wanting to know where the pet is at all times. For adult humans ... there is nobody who has a legitimate reason for wanting to know where I am at all times. Not my employer, not the government, not my family -- nobody.

    My only real hope about the proto-Orwellian age in which we find ourselves living is that it will spark a massive backlash, and create a privacy movement comparable to the civil rights movement of the 50's and 60's, or the labor movement of the early part of the 20th c. Not just among the folks at the EFF and the ACLU, who come off as a bit fanatical to most folks, but something broad-based. (NB: I'm not calling the EFF and ACLU fanatical -- I support both organizations. But a lot of people think of them as "those nutjobs." I suspect that may be about to change ...) Because that's what it will take to keep Orwell's vision from coming true.

    I think there may be early signs of this. People may say that it's okay for the government to infringe our privacy in one way to "fight terrorism," or the RIAA to do so in another to "fight piracy," or some huge business to do so in still another for "market research," or whatever ... but if you can get people to think about it all at once, they realize what a Big Brother monstrosity our society can become, without our even noticing until it's too late.

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  10. Similar tech to famous Russian spying device by tdrury · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It sounds like the RFID technology is similar a
    famous Russian listening device.

    This device was totally passive, but when hit with a specific RF frequency (via a very directional beam) it would reflect the beam back but modulated by the sound in the room. The Russians could demodulate the signal and get the audio back. They hid the device in a carved wooden Seal of the United States that they presented to the US Embassador to Russia who proudly hung it above his desk. The Russian were privy to all conversations that took place in his office.

    After a while the American figured his room was bugged so they sent in technicians to find the bug. The Russians weren't stupid - they knew when technicians arrived and simply turned off the directional RF carrier beam. They would turn it back on when the technicians left. Finally the Americans got smarter and all left but one who hid in the office with RF listening gear. When the Russians turned the RF carrier on, he detected it and figured it out it was embedded in the Seal. It was quite a scandal.

  11. Missing the point . . . by Jaywalk · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The author completely misses the point of the technology. Retailers love these things because they're a big step up from scanning. You walk through the store throwing stuff into your cart, then you walk through a checkout scanner that scans the whole cart and gives you a total. Swipe your credit card or feed a few dead presidents into the slot and your gone. No lines, no cashiers.

    But if that's the case, you can't use the system to track the RFID chips after the sale is complete. You don't want the scanners telling you about the pants the customer bought last week, just the stuff he's buying now.

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