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UFO Evidence From SOHO Satellite

Anonymous Coward writes "EuroSeti is set to reveal during the week of Jan 24-27 National Space Centre in Leicester, UK scientifically sound and verifiable evidence based on observations taken by the SOHO satellite and other satellites that indicate UFOs are present within our solar system. For the past two years, hundreds of extraordinary UFO-like images have been gleaned by a Spanish-based team using two space-based satellites. NASA initially tried to explain the images away as pixel faults, passing meteors or asteroids, etc., but when a European-led consortium presented them with images that clearly were none of the aforementioned, they 'clamped up.'"

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  1. Who knew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A Small Office/Home Office satelite would do something the big commercial, governmental and scientific satelites couldn't! Amazing!

  2. When UFO's Attack! by OutRigged · · Score: 5, Funny

    And when they come to Earth and systematically wipe us out one city at a time, one brave computer geek will upload a virus to thier mothership, and take the whole alien fleet out! They'll make movies out of this!

    Oh wait, they already did...

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    1. Re:When UFO's Attack! by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 5, Funny
      And when they come to Earth and systematically wipe us out one city at a time, one brave computer geek will upload a virus to thier mothership, and take the whole alien fleet out! They'll make movies out of this!

      Just remember guys, a few things we know about these aliens so far: They're VERY susceptible to dying from earth based bacteria (War of the Worlds), their computers can be interfaced via Macintosh computers.. although I'm afraid we'll need to use OS9 or Classic mode to do that since they aren't advanced enough to use a BSD kernel yet (Independence Day), and water is deadly to them! (Signs) Remember this when they start invading guys.

    2. Re:When UFO's Attack! by CybSirius · · Score: 5, Funny

      We could just post the URL for the mothership and wait for the Slashdot effect...

  3. Id love to believe this but.... by Liquidrage · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ill believe evidence of UFO's when the evidence isn't a link to a UFO-centric site.

  4. Why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why has it become such that UFO = flying saucer?

    A "UFO" is just an unidentified flying object. Anything whizzing through the air that I can't identify is a "UFO", whether or not it has anything to do with spacecraft from another world.

  5. Can anyone prove the web-site exists? by Jack+William+Bell · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sure, I know they are claiming that the so-called 'Slashdot Effect' has rendered it invisible, but do we have any independent witnesses? Any physical proof? No...

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  6. Grrr...not even pseudo-science - an advertisement! by EchoMirage · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Dammit, editors, RTFLA (linked article)! I quote from the site:
    On Tuesday, 7 January 2003, Mr. Mike Murray, one of the founders of EUROSETI, visited the offices of UFO Magazine to conduct a WORLD EXCLUSIVE filmed interview. With his kind permission, that interview - which features a healthy selection of these images - can now be viewed on our website.

    Those wishing to attend the lectures at Britain's National Space Centre in Leicester should book their seat a.s.a.p. with EUROSETI. Tickets are £20.00 each and available NOW!
    Even if there had been linked information (there wasn't) why should this type of very skeptical pseudo-science make the front page? What's next, a link to the cold fusion magazines? Perpetual motion devices?

    This article exemplifies the growing problem of apathy amongst the editorial staff of Slashdot. I'm disappointed, too, because I like this place.
  7. Let's hope they come soon. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple might go really bankrupt sometime and then we have no weapons left to use against them.

    1. Re:Let's hope they come soon. by IAR80 · · Score: 5, Funny

      We could upload them the audigy drivers.

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  8. I want to believe, but.. by dr_labrat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Somehow I think there might be another explanation:

    News story

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  9. image filename: Disney.jpg?? by jungd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The name of the image file on the page is Disney.jpg.

    Hmmm.

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  10. Re:One question? by Q+Who · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Three words: you have no clue.

    This "quantum pairing" doesn't allow passing of information.

  11. Re:One question? by sql*kitten · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who is to say that a more advanced civilization would even bother communicating with Radio? That whole "Light Speed" limit kind of makes communication by this method rather worthless.

    Even if you assume that that light speed is an absolute limit, there are good reasons not to use radio over any distance greater than a few hundred metres. The reason is simply efficiency: if you know more or less where the entity you want to communicate with is, why waste energy by broadcasting the signal on other directions? Over short ranges, broadcasting is good because it gives you freedom to move relative to a relay station, but between relay stations, hard links like optical fibre, or directional transmission by laser or microwave are the way to go.

    This can explain also why SETI@Home haven't found anything. The period of time between an alien civilization starting to broadcast radio and then realizing that there were more efficient ways to communication would have to overlap with the period in which our civilization was listening for said signals. Not only that, but even if a civilization would have overlapped at 50 lightyears, if they happened to be 200 lightyears away, there would be no overlap. We are talking about mere decades out of millions of years. Maybe exactly the signals we were looking for passed us by just before radio invented.

    Further, the limitation of lightspeed in communication is only really a problem if you assume that the users of it have to worry about time. I think it is reasonable to assume that before any civilization makes it any distance into space, they will have solved the problem of aging for themselves by whatever means.

  12. Re:There is no group called Euroseti! by iggymanz · · Score: 5, Funny
    Good grief, Slashdot is turning into the National Enquirer.

    I'm thinking of submitting one of these stories:
    • Kabalists Apply Fourier Transform to Torah and Result Proves to be OpenBSD 3.3 Kernel (much sought after UltraSparc III version)!!! !
    • CmdrTaco says: My mother was tentacle raped by a Space Alien (and here I am)
    • Government Mind Control Satellite Rays Make Male Computer Geeks Download Naughty MPEGs
    • Elvis Appears to Bill Gates, Tells him India is Next Market
  13. Slashloid? Tabdot? by radpole · · Score: 5, Funny

    New slashdot headlines:

    Britany Spears impregnated by CowboyNeal.

    CmdrTaco blood is made of taco sauce.

    Timothy's brain is removed and no one noticed.

    Oh well thats why I keep reading slashdot you never know what is next.

  14. The term "flying saucer" was a 1947 accident by sbjornda · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From An Aeronautical History of Flying Saucers":
    It is important to bear in mind that the UFO phenomenon kicks off in 1947, in the form we now recognize, as a result of observations made by Kenneth Arnold over Mount Rainier. Paradoxically, Arnold didn't see "flying saucers," rather, he witnessed a formation of nine boomerang-like devices, or "D"-shaped with the straight section aimed backward (the reader will recall the comments made by Justo Miranda regarding this most aerodynamic shape). It was a journalistic error that assigned Arnold the term "flying saucer." What really matters is that the saucer myth spread quickly across the U.S., and then throughout the rest of the world.
  15. Re: Mind Control Lasers vs. Tin Foil technology by MisterMook · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Sir,

    Thanks to recent advances in technology mind control lasers have never before been as safe and as effective as they are today. Insights from confidential sources have allowed us to make past limitations in our systems obsolete. Now mind control lasering technology relies on non-material interference bands and goes directly into each subject regardless of most terrestrial technologies jamming efforts.

    Please cease your /. revolutionary activities at once and report to your Control.

    Thank you,
    They

  16. Take a look at the image closely. by sbaker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I look at the image at the head of the linked page ("Disney.jpg" - curiously)
    what I see is a VERY low resolution image.

    Look at the red trail behind it. There are a bunch of little raster-aligned
    four-pointed star shapes. (The one on the extreme left is a prime example).

    This is what you get if you take a VERY low resolution image an blow it up
    with simple bilinear blending between the pixels. Taking this as evidence
    of the original image resolution, we can see that the 'spaceship' at the
    righthand end of the image is just about 3 pixels across - but has been
    false-coloured so that the bilinear blending has become magenta and yellow
    bands. Those are not 'real' they are just a part of the false-colouring.

    Isn't it suspicious that the "UFO" is exactly aligned with the raster?

    This is a fake...well, perhaps not exactly a fake - but an intentional
    mis-use of image manipulation to produce an image that was never really
    there.

    You could reproduce this image in GIMP in about 3 minutes flat.

    1) Create a 20x20 RGB image.
    2) Using a 1 pixel brush, paint a diagonal line using bright red.
    3) Fatten one end of the line slightly.

    At this point, your image (if you'd gotten it from a photo of the
    night sky) wouldn't convince you that this was a UFO - would it?
    It could be any kind of a trail, meteor, military jet on afterburner,
    a flare, a firework, anything like that.

    4) Increase the image resolution to 400x400

    Notice how the 'tail' now looks EXACTLY like the one in the
    ufomag web site. Look at the 'star' shapes in the tail.

    So, now let's do some "false-colour enhancement":

    5) Choose 'select by colour' - set the threshold down to nearly
    zero percent and click on a region at the center of the 'head'
    of the trail. Fill it with magenta.

    6) Pick a pixel close to that, fill it with a nice lemon yellow.

    Notice how your image looks startlingly similar to the one
    on the ufomag website. All the artifacts present in their
    image are present in yours.

    Now, I'm not saying that they painted their image in GIMP,
    I'm quite prepared to accept that it's a photo of a real
    world night-sky object. However, the pretty pink and yellow
    spaceship on the right - complete with spooky red glow and
    engine exhaust is no more than a deliberately produced
    artifact.

    The yellow and pink regions are BOTH narrower than the original
    pixel resolution - no feature narrower than TWO pixels wide
    (Nyquist sampling limit) can ever be reconstructed from an
    image.

    Bah. BULLSHIT!!

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  17. Simple explanation by titaniam · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This looks to me like an image of an ordinary star saturating the ccd (the cross), with some small portion of the exposure time suffering from a tracking problem (the diagonal smear). Many telescopes have a cross-shaped support for the imaging device within the light path, and what results is a cross-shaped diffraction peak around bright stars. Or, saturation of the pixels under a bright image bleeds out along the principal directions of the ccd. Notice how the cross is aligned with the up and down directions of the image?

  18. I worked on the SOHO project... by Dr.+Zowie · · Score: 5, Informative
    ... and there have certainly been "UFO's" sighted in some of the images, in the strict sense of "unidentified flying objects".

    Most of them are attributable to dust thrown off by the spacecraft itself -- e.g. one of the instruments would close its door, and then another instrument would see loads of moving specks.

    Other streaks (like the one at the top of the linked page in the article) are often attributable to cosmic rays (often deliberately mistyped as "comic rays" by my cow orkers) or ionizing radiation from the Sun itself.

    The LASCO wide-angle coronal camera often sees stuff moving in strange directions -- most of that is sungrazing comets from the Kreutz family of comets.

    I work at the Southwest Research Institute now, and my coworker Dan Durda has done an extensive search through thousands of LASCO images for moving objects that don't fit the pattern of the sungrazing comets -- because he's interested in "vulcanoid asteroids", asteroids inside Mercury's orbit. He didn't find any, but I'm sure that any alien spacecraft jetting through the field of view would have tripped his algorithm.

    It's certainly possible that these guys have found something new, but remember that "UFO" doesn't necessarily mean "alien spaceship".

    Interestingly enough, SOHO itself registered as a false positive (caught by humans, fortunately) for the earthbound SETI algorithms. It's a strongish radio source that doesn't fit their earth-satellite pattern, since it's sitting at the Earth-Sun Lagrange point.