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Slackware Forums Alive Again!

HappySlacker writes "Looks like the forums from slackware.com that Patrick Volkerding (Slackware's daddy) had to take down because of massive trolling are fully active again after 2 years of hibernation as read-only at userlocal.com." Update: 01/21 19:23 GMT by T : Jeremy from LinuxQuestions.org points out the forums on that site, which is recommended on Slackware's links page.

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  1. Slackware's forums? Looks like User Local's forums by arfonrg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Besides, Linuxpackages.net has kept Slackware forums going the whole time..

    Us Slackers now have 2 forums AND a mailing list...

    WHOOO HOOOO!!!!

    Here's the forums:
    http://www.linuxpackages.net/forum/

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  2. Re:Read only != Alive by jkcity · · Score: 3, Informative

    it used to be read only, you can post there now.

  3. Now maybe they can work on the store by Jason1729 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not very re-assuring when you click on help and get a message that says "Page not found: help".

    They also make you provide your credit card info and confirm the order before they tell you how much shipping is and what the total price is.

    That being said, I've used slackware since version 2.3, and it's by far my favourite distro. I've tried most of the distros, and imo they don't come close to slackware's functionality and ease of use.

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    1. Re:Now maybe they can work on the store by alpharoid · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just for the record -- those of you running Red Hat can enjoy some apt-get benefits from freshrpms.net. You install apt (and optionally the GUI-oriented Synaptic), and just sit back and enjoy the world of easy rpms without dependency problems.

      Not quite as complete as Debian, but fantastic for those who don't feel like starting over and making the switch.

    2. Re:Now maybe they can work on the store by tzanger · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apt-get makes dependencies a thing of the past.

      That's something I've never fully understood. Why are dependencies so farking hard to observe? I mean to a fresh newbie or someone who just doesn't have the time or interest in it, sure, but I've found apt to be more of a pain in the ass than anything else.

      Disclaimer: I've been using Slackware since shortly after it first came out. I believe my first install of Linux was with the 0.99.x kernels, but it may have been the early 1.x.x kernels, I really can't remember.

      Slackware's biggest bonus (and fault) has been that it lets you do as you please with packages. It'll let you install a package without having its dependencies installed. You run the app, and you get an error. Usually something along the lines of a library missing.

      Now this isn't what I'd want a newbie to see or do, but for someone who's familliar with the system you run ldd on the binary and find out what's missing and install it. No big deal.

      Especially now that CheckInstall is around, I have absolutely no issue with Slackware -- -current has logrotate which was sorely missing from the distro, but Checkinstall's the best. Create Slackware, Debian or RPM packages with a touch of the keyboard. Parallel installs, links, everything's supported.

      Back to Slackware's packaging. What I disliked about Debian or RPM was that if the package didn't exist you had to go hunt around trying to find it and hope someone else made it, or else make it yourself, perhaps using Checkinstall. Unfortunately both RPM and DEB have heavier requirements -- dependency trees, documentation in the right spot, patches to make it fit within their particular file structure... you either use Checkinstall to make the package poorly (but validly), or you set out on a mission and end up being the maintainer of every package you make. Slackware doesn't care, which is great for me.

      Sure Debian's got 10k packages, but it seems that everything I need isn't there, isn't complete, or is old, even in the unstable tree. FreeS/WAN with NAT-traversal and SA-disconnect, GNU-Radiusd, Psi, mplayer... that's just off the top of my head. If I don't install via packages (this goes for Perl modules from CPAN, too!) I now have TWO package managers to take care of -- the one in my head and the one in the distro. For me, Slackware compliments the one in my head (or vice-versa).

      Anyway enough ranting -- I just don't understand how for anyone who's been using linux for any amount of time cares about dependencies. Even with upgrades.

  4. Userlocal by tiny69 · · Score: 3, Informative

    The old Slackware.com forums have been available on Userlocal for well over 6 months. The only thing that has changed recently is that Userlocal has a new hosting provider and that the forums are no longer read only.

    But this may be a bad time for the forums to become active again, alt.os.linux.slackware has been getting hit fairly hard by a troll(s) in the last few days.

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  5. Re:Wicked! by Xpilot · · Score: 5, Informative

    Slack has always been alive. Slackers aren't as...ehem...vocal as users of other distros but believe me we're alive and kicking.

    If you've noticed, Slackware has always been a profitable company. It may not be as big as Redhat or Mandrake, but its got its own share of very loyal users.

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  6. Re:Slackware's forums? Looks like User Local's for by JimmyGulp · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't forget news:alt.os.linux.slackware, and news:alt.os.slakware

    But keeping those free of trolls is interesting fun. ;)

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  7. Re:Wicked! by orangesquid · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, Slack is still pretty alive.
    True, you may have to understand hard drive partitions and other standard PC terminology to install it, so it may not be for "Joe Schmoe Windows User", but I love the configurability.
    It almost does not have thousands upon thousands of packages, turning it into a 6- or 7-CD set that requires buying the more expensive 700MB disks. No, Slack can still fit mostly on one CD-ROM, with a few bits like KDE thrown onto another (who needs KDE/GNOME, besides? Ick.) However, I've never had any package under Slackware not work, and the only library problems I've ever had were with freetype1 conflicting with freetype2 (fixed in 8.0) and all the annoyances of keeping multiple versions of qt around because Trolltech can't keep it's fscking API the same for more than two weeks (sorry, any qt fans), but Slackware has never come with anything "broken", which I'm always grateful for.
    Slackware also does not use a dependency system, which is perhaps a good idea at this point given the state of (most of) the competition (is there anything besides apt that doesn't suck?).
    Patrick also keeps Slackware-current up to date with security and bugfixes; I have rarely had to wait more than a few days between hearing about a hole and being able to start that service up again. Not as quick as the instant-fixes that paying Red Hat customers enjoy, but absolutely fine for me.
    Ack, I'm rambling. Anyway, Slackware is the only of the "original" distros which hasn't succumbed to vast amounts of bloat, and it has never released a new release with lots of broken libraries and such (RedHat 6.0 anyone?). Not only is it alive, but it rocks.
    It's a very quality distributiong for the hobbyist, and I don't think it will ever die.

    Hmm, after a preview I realize how crappy half this post sounds. Oh well, I'll post it sans karma bonus :)

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  8. Re:Glad to see signs of life by psm321 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Slack kernels come with framebuffer (and thus logo) support... you just need to tell the kernel to use it (via lilo/grub)

  9. Re:Slackware's forums? Looks like User Local's for by Charm · · Score: 2, Informative

    And not forgetting the one at linux questions
    Linux Help Network
    Linux Entre Amis Which is french
    Linux Pro Nederland
    There must be more as well.

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  10. Re:Wicked! by 13Echo · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree. And excellent add-ons like Dropline Gnome (Gnome 2 for Slackware 8.1) make it all the better. By Slackware 8.1 install is a solid as a rock. Slackware is still the most practical and reliable desktop Linux distribution, in my opinion.

    I learned to use Linux on Slackware. I found it easier to configure, than having to use the non-standard tools that other distributions have. Plus, with Slackware, you have the benefit of learning how to use Linux. It's a lot different than learning how to use Red Hat or Suse. Some distributions really pull you far away from the basics, and actually make things more difficult.

    Using fdisk (or cfdisk), configuring sound and video, and learning a few basics of rc.files are really all there is to Slackware. After that, it's smooth sailing. Once you learn how it works, you can rasonably set up a Slackware box in less than an hour or two.

  11. Cascading dependencies by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why are dependencies so farking hard to observe?

    Because of cascading dependencies. One package may ultimately depend on updated versions of thirty or more other packages. That's where apt comes in.

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  12. $200,000? by yerricde · · Score: 2, Informative

    Find a better ISP

    Better ISP? That's not always a reasonable answer. In the United States of America, there is generally only one cable modem ISP in a given area, and DSL isn't available everywhere because of the 4 km distance limitation. Thus, switching to another high-speed ISP could cost $200,000, which includes all the costs of moving your family and getting a job in another state.

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