One thing this article does is confirm all my negative sterotypes of Redhat users. Does he even care about the formats these players can play? He only seems to care about the superficial things. All he mentions is that Ogle can only play DVD. Well, duh, its a DVD player. And of course he complains about installing stuff, well, gosh, then stop using Redhat. I used Mandrake until I got sick of RPM, now I'm a gentoo user.
I have found mplayer to be the best DivX player for Windows or Linux. It plays DivX's other players give up on, it has a lot of tolerance for bad DivX's. My windows-using friend had to come over to my room to watch an anime DivX that wouldn't even start on his computer. I havn't really used xine much, it could be just as good especially considering they use a lot of the same libraries. I agree, the interfaces aren't the best. It really annoys me that the mplayer-gui has a distracting scrolling marquee. But I just watch it in full-screen mode (push 'f' and then double click the video to make the gui disappear). But is that the most important thing? Especially considering that if you watch a lot of videos, its well worth it to pick up the keyboard commands, their easy to pick up unlike the Windows conterparts which have various odd key combinations to do something as simple as fullscreen.
This guy is an idiot
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Gordonjcp
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If you download something for free, and it doesn't do what you want, you have two choices. Fix it or don't use it.
JWZ should learn how to program and work on his own video player, if he's so unhappy. MPlayer works just great for me, although I don't like any of the skins either. No reason not to make one I do like, though.
Resizing the window changes the aspect ratio of the video! Yeah, I'm sure someone has ever wanted that.
Does anyone actually play video in a resized window? Surely only "normal" size and fullscreen are ever used? By the way, Windows Media Player up to version 6 at least did the same trick.
I should use the program only from the command line, or by memorizing magic keystrokes? Awesome idea.
Yeeeeeees... Because of course, mplayer is so hard to remember. Pretty much every media player I've seen can be configured to whatever control keys you want, although left and right for back and next, and space for pause seems pretty sensible.
In conclusion, this guy is a cretin. If he doesn't like what's available on Linux (and indeed other Unices) for free, both as in beer and as in speech, he should go and buy a copy of Windows XP.
Re:This guy is way off base
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Dave_bsr
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Actually windows users use windows, most of the time, because that's whats on the computer when they get it. i've dealt with the whole spectrum of users, from powerful, capable people to the guy who says "it's broken@!!!" when he tries to dialup while calling me on the phone. Most of these guys don't know about linux, or that windows != computer.
In my book, a good interface means that the video player doesn't crash when you press Fast-Forward, it plays all video files, and doesn't send usage statistics back to The Man.
Stability. Simple, basic interface. Plays all media files. GUI if you want it. Easy to learn, given a few minutes.
Hmm...sounds like mplayer...
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OF COURSE!!!!
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Anonymous Coward
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Oh I see, of course, now I get it. I didn't really like using a GUI for anything, I've just been fooling myself all of this time. I've been brainwashed. I mean a CLI is the answer for absolutely every situation and I'm an brainwashed idiot for *ever* considering *anything* else. I mean why would I even want the option of a decent GUI? And who the fuck wants sliced bread or laundry machines? I mean when you're slicing your own bread you can get just the right thickness so you're a fucktard if you buy sliced bread. And the laundry machine thing - well hell if you're hand washing you have the option to pick out every fucking piece of dirt *by hand* - I mean only morons would just want to dump the whole thing in the laundry sometimes. And don't get me started on electricity - I mean shit why not just buy a bike with a generator, or my own coal fired generator I don't need those fucks at the power company making my power for me!
Re:What's the point?
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NineNine
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You are the only one "mistaking" anything here. Free software is about freedom, freedom of choice, freedom to use (and reuse, modify, etc.) the software that runs and orders much of our lives.
It's also about the freedom to waste your time with utterly pointless crap. I put a DVD in my W2K box, it plays. I put a DVD in my PS2, it plays. I put a DVD in my DVD player, it plays. Anything more complicated than that is a waste of time. But hey, feel free to waste your own time!
Re:Uselessness. Amen brutha.
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JW+Troll
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I'm still waiting to see these Open Sores "gurus" photoshop a picture with the precious CLI. Really. I've heard how wonderful CLI media players are, and how efficient the CLI is for everything but now I want to see just how special the CLI is for myself.
For that matter, I'd also like to know how to play my DivX movies within KDE or GNOME at full framerate (and colour depth) using any media player.. something seemingly impossible under Red Hat 7.2, Mandrake 9 or Lycoris. Strangely enough Windows 2000 has no problem performing as I require. Of course, everything else under Win2K is so much faster I'd be amazed if Linux could do video better.
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One thing this article does is confirm all my negative sterotypes of Redhat users. Does he even care about the formats these players can play? He only seems to care about the superficial things. All he mentions is that Ogle can only play DVD. Well, duh, its a DVD player. And of course he complains about installing stuff, well, gosh, then stop using Redhat. I used Mandrake until I got sick of RPM, now I'm a gentoo user.
I have found mplayer to be the best DivX player for Windows or Linux. It plays DivX's other players give up on, it has a lot of tolerance for bad DivX's. My windows-using friend had to come over to my room to watch an anime DivX that wouldn't even start on his computer. I havn't really used xine much, it could be just as good especially considering they use a lot of the same libraries. I agree, the interfaces aren't the best. It really annoys me that the mplayer-gui has a distracting scrolling marquee. But I just watch it in full-screen mode (push 'f' and then double click the video to make the gui disappear). But is that the most important thing? Especially considering that if you watch a lot of videos, its well worth it to pick up the keyboard commands, their easy to pick up unlike the Windows conterparts which have various odd key combinations to do something as simple as fullscreen.
If you download something for free, and it doesn't do what you want, you have two choices. Fix it or don't use it.
JWZ should learn how to program and work on his own video player, if he's so unhappy. MPlayer works just great for me, although I don't like any of the skins either. No reason not to make one I do like, though.
Resizing the window changes the aspect ratio of the video! Yeah, I'm sure someone has ever wanted that.
Does anyone actually play video in a resized window? Surely only "normal" size and fullscreen are ever used? By the way, Windows Media Player up to version 6 at least did the same trick.
I should use the program only from the command line, or by memorizing magic keystrokes? Awesome idea.
Yeeeeeees... Because of course, mplayer is so hard to remember. Pretty much every media player I've seen can be configured to whatever control keys you want, although left and right for back and next, and space for pause seems pretty sensible.
In conclusion, this guy is a cretin. If he doesn't like what's available on Linux (and indeed other Unices) for free, both as in beer and as in speech, he should go and buy a copy of Windows XP.
Actually windows users use windows, most of the time, because that's whats on the computer when they get it. i've dealt with the whole spectrum of users, from powerful, capable people to the guy who says "it's broken@!!!" when he tries to dialup while calling me on the phone. Most of these guys don't know about linux, or that windows != computer.
In my book, a good interface means that the video player doesn't crash when you press Fast-Forward, it plays all video files, and doesn't send usage statistics back to The Man.
Stability. Simple, basic interface. Plays all media files. GUI if you want it. Easy to learn, given a few minutes.
Hmm...sounds like mplayer...
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
Oh I see, of course, now I get it. I didn't really like using a GUI for anything, I've just been fooling myself all of this time. I've been brainwashed. I mean a CLI is the answer for absolutely every situation and I'm an brainwashed idiot for *ever* considering *anything* else. I mean why would I even want the option of a decent GUI? And who the fuck wants sliced bread or laundry machines? I mean when you're slicing your own bread you can get just the right thickness so you're a fucktard if you buy sliced bread. And the laundry machine thing - well hell if you're hand washing you have the option to pick out every fucking piece of dirt *by hand* - I mean only morons would just want to dump the whole thing in the laundry sometimes. And don't get me started on electricity - I mean shit why not just buy a bike with a generator, or my own coal fired generator I don't need those fucks at the power company making my power for me!
You are the only one "mistaking" anything here. Free software is about freedom, freedom of choice, freedom to use (and reuse, modify, etc.) the software that runs and orders much of our lives.
It's also about the freedom to waste your time with utterly pointless crap. I put a DVD in my W2K box, it plays. I put a DVD in my PS2, it plays. I put a DVD in my DVD player, it plays. Anything more complicated than that is a waste of time. But hey, feel free to waste your own time!
I'm still waiting to see these Open Sores "gurus" photoshop a picture with the precious CLI. Really. I've heard how wonderful CLI media players are, and how efficient the CLI is for everything but now I want to see just how special the CLI is for myself.
For that matter, I'd also like to know how to play my DivX movies within KDE or GNOME at full framerate (and colour depth) using any media player.. something seemingly impossible under Red Hat 7.2, Mandrake 9 or Lycoris.
Strangely enough Windows 2000 has no problem performing as I require. Of course, everything else under Win2K is so much faster I'd be amazed if Linux could do video better.
just like the humble blood clot... turboporsche@telus.net