Posted by
CmdrTaco
on from the another-brick-in-the-wall dept.
ceejayoz writes "MSNBC has an interesting article about the Mono project, saying that the 'volunteer effort
could oblige Microsoft to work with Linux'."
Re:Mono is a platform
by
IamTheRealMike
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· Score: 4, Informative
Basically, what these pages show is that Mono is less like Wine
Well it's both. Windows apps will still be written using System.Windows.Forms and they will need Wine to emulate them unfortunately. Mono/Linux apps will use the Gnome or KDE.net bindings, and they won't integrate as nicely into Windows.
Unfortunately Wine and the SWF effort are currently being screwed around by threading issues, and the new glibc also messes things up even more, so until the threading situation is sorted out I doubt we'll be seeing Windows.NET apps run on Linux.
what patents does SUN own on the Java language and arcitecture itself? we've seen IBM come out with a non-standard GUI library, and SUN only replies with: "it's not the standard java". as far as i know, anyone is freely able to use and extend the java arcitecture as it suites their needs.
microsoft does have patents on the.NET arcitecture and have not at all publicly stated that they won't use those patents to stop those who implement their technology on other platforms. when asked about mono, they say "that's an interesting project and it shows the power of.NET". they fail to add that "yeah, and we're going to basically own their source when it's all and done with it. tht GPL is going to get ripped to shreds."
as others have mentioned FORTRAN isn't quite dead, but like BSD, it's dying. as late as 2 years ago i was coding business applications in FORTRAN on both VMS and Solaris platforms.
Re:The Purpose of Mono
by
PigleT
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· Score: 4, Informative
You're missing out on the single fact that Microshaft have actually submitted a whole standard to the ECMA - the C# specs.
Sure there's nothing new, though. There's been nothing new since the 1960s with lisp, but that's a different rant.;8)
-- ~Tim
-- .|` Clouds cross the black moonlight,
Rushing on down to the circle of the turn
Well it's both. Windows apps will still be written using System.Windows.Forms and they will need Wine to emulate them unfortunately. Mono/Linux apps will use the Gnome or KDE .net bindings, and they won't integrate as nicely into Windows.
Unfortunately Wine and the SWF effort are currently being screwed around by threading issues, and the new glibc also messes things up even more, so until the threading situation is sorted out I doubt we'll be seeing Windows .NET apps run on Linux.
what patents does SUN own on the Java language and arcitecture itself? we've seen IBM come out with a non-standard GUI library, and SUN only replies with: "it's not the standard java". as far as i know, anyone is freely able to use and extend the java arcitecture as it suites their needs.
.NET arcitecture and have not at all publicly stated that they won't use those patents to stop those who implement their technology on other platforms. when asked about mono, they say "that's an interesting project and it shows the power of .NET". they fail to add that "yeah, and we're going to basically own their source when it's all and done with it. tht GPL is going to get ripped to shreds."
microsoft does have patents on the
as others have mentioned FORTRAN isn't quite dead, but like BSD, it's dying. as late as 2 years ago i was coding business applications in FORTRAN on both VMS and Solaris platforms.
You're missing out on the single fact that Microshaft have actually submitted a whole standard to the ECMA - the C# specs.
;8)
Sure there's nothing new, though. There's been nothing new since the 1960s with lisp, but that's a different rant.
~Tim
--
Rushing on down to the circle of the turn