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Card Makers Say UK Citizens Want Biometric ID Cards

ArsonPanda writes "ZDnet is running a story on a recent survey in the UK showing overwhelming 80% public support of universal, biometricly enhanced citizen ID cards. Everybody here's fine with supplying the gubmit w/ your retinal scans and fingerprints, right?"

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  1. Damn those retinal scans.... by Dr.+Photo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Honestly, you decide to change your eye color one day, and the next thing you know, all the billboards are calling you "Mr. Yakamoto".... :P

  2. Whew! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    For a second there I thought it said RECTAL scans!

  3. expected results by trmj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The big thing to remember here is that the survey was conducted by the card maker, not an independant source. The results may not be as reliable as most would like.

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  4. MS passport by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why don't we just hand over all our biometric data to a trusted third party like microsoft. They could manage the identities of the entire population of the world and free up needed resources for governments.

    passport.NET could handle this without any major changes.

    [/sarcasm]

  5. I don't think this is going to happen... by pr1000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to the BBC most people are against such an ID card and plans for one will most likely be abandoned.

    Here are some links:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2688697.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2657143.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2583651.stm

  6. Re:CCTV anyone? by Burb · · Score: 5, Informative
    This CCTV thing is a typical Slashdot knee-jerk response to any "civil liberties" issue in the UK. It applies to shopping centres and places like that. There's no CCTV in my street, my neighbourhood, my house, my garage, my desk....

    Good grief, if someone snatches my wallet I'd be quite glad if CCTV helped to catch the thief. Wasn't CCTV evidence used to catch the killers of Jamie Bulger?

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  7. Perhaps you should check you facts by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That ignorant trolls like you get modded up as "insightful" or "interesting" is sad.

    Here, for those who are interested in the truth, are the facts:

    1. The overwhelming majority of CCTV in the UK are privately owned and maintained.

    Stores, shopping precincts, bars, airports, train stations, etc are, just like in the US, privately-owned premises. And, just like in the US, they have CCTV cameras installed for security and safety purposes.

    Where's the problem here? Shouldn't a store owner be entitled to put a camera up in his shop to deter would-be shop-lifters? Shouldn't an airport or a train station have cameras installed to monitor passenger traffic flow and thereby ensure passenger safety?

    Would you be happier if the store owner felt less secure whilst earning his livelyhood or if the occassional passenger fell onto the tracks because a station platform was dangerously overcrowded?

    2. The majority of government-owned cameras are watching the roads.

    Again, these are mainly concerned with the safety of road users. Monitoring traffic jams and detecting motorists speeding through red lights isn't exactly a Big Brother scenario - so why make it out to be?

    3. A minority of government-owned cameras are installed in and around high security installations and other potential terrorist targets.

    Number one on this list is the US Embassy in Grosvenor Square. The area around that building is CCTV city, and has been for some time. Gee, I wonder why? Is it because the British goverment is obsessed with what the US Ambassador is having for lunch, or is it because it's a terrorist target?

    Gee, let me think...

    (Not too long ago, you could drive around all four sides of Grosvenor Square. But, some time in the last decade or so, some bright spark decided it was far too tempting to a potential car bomber and the side that houses the US Embassy was blocked off and protected with anti-tank measures. Not even Buckingham Palace or Downing Street are that secure. Next time you're in town, check it out - it makes Fort Knox look like an open air picnic camp.)

    It's worth bearing in mind that Britain's been a terrorist target for over 30 years now. The IRA has been blowing up bombs, killing men, women and children all over Britain whilst freely raising funds in the US since before I was born. We can't (and won't) live in a society where there's someone watching you on every street corner so the security forces use CCTV cameras where they have to to ensure public safety.

    (For the benefit of the "cameras can't stop terrorists" brigade, I'll point out now that IRA members rarely try to martyr themselves on suicide missions. They prefer to go in, place their car bomb, etc, and get out. Naturally, being spotted and caught is something they try to avoid, and evidence has shown that CCTVs do help curtail such activities. Suicide bombers are a different breed.)

    4. Most CCTV footage is very poor, even when enhanced.

    Most cameras are very low quality, black and white monitors. Getting a positive identification from one, even after the picture has been forensically enhanced is very difficult.

    How such cameras (even if every single one of them was interlinked, actively manned, etc) could track my movement day in, day out is ridiculous to contemplate. There isn't a camera within half a mile of my house, and I live in a densely populated suburb of London, so where would they start?

    So before you yanks (and sorry, but it is mainly yanks) go spouting off about how CCTV obsessed Britain is and how 1984-like our society is, why don't you examine the data? The real picture is a far cry from the sensationalist BS being spouted here.

    So, "people need to wake up and realize that they are slowly removing their own rights", huh? US Patriot Act anyone?

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  8. Re:yeah right by permaculture · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Survey probably said:

    "Do you want crime to be reduced?
    "Do you think the Police should be able to check criminal's identities?"
    "Do you think ID cards are a good idea?"

    As opposed to:

    "Do you think the government holds too much information on UK subjects?"
    "Do think people have a right to privacy?"
    "Do you think ID cards are a bad idea?"

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