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Sony Combines Pocket Drive with 802.11

Ernest writes "They presented this at Net&Com 2003 in Tokyo. I've found this announcement in German at ComputerWoche Sony selected Linux as the file server's operating system. They'll start selling this little 390 gram thing on the japanese market at the end of March for 585$. Inside is a 20GB 2.5" disk of which (only) 17GB will be available for files."

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  1. Translation by use_compress · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the babelfish translation

    Sony announces WiFi Fileserver in the milling one format 05.02.2003 at 11:00 o'clock MUNICH (COMPUTER WEEK) - Japanese electronics company Sony has a portable file server presented which, which kommunziert over Wireless LAN with PCS and PDAs. The "Fsv-pg1" works with a Linux based operating system and contains a 20-GB-Festplatte in the 2,5-Zoll-Format, 17 GB of it is available for user data. The equipment fits with masses of 83 x 155 x of 31 millimeters loosely into a hand and weighs 390 gram. For the enterprise all thing a power pack is necessary, the internal Akku serves only for baking UP purposes. The inserted ACCESS POINT (IEEE 802.11b) can serve according to manufacturer up to 250 users at the same time. Access to the stored files is possible over ftp, CIFS (Common InterNet file system) or NFS. By a Ethernet Cradle available as accessories the equipment can connect accessing Clients by WLAN in addition with the InterNet. As safety functions the Fsv-pg1 incoming inspection coding with alternatively 64 or 128 bits offers, stored files can by password be protected. On the Net & Com 2003 in Tokyo the equipment is presented today to the public for the first time. It is to come at the end of March for converted 585 dollar on the Japanese market, the Cradle costs again scarcely 60 dollar. Whether and when the equipment appears also in this country, is not well-known. (tc)

    1. Re:Translation by Autonymous+Toaster · · Score: 4, Funny

      For the enterprise all thing a power pack is necessary, the internal Akku serves only for baking UP purposes.

      Well I for one am glad to see these corporations are beginning to get some priorities.

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    2. Re:Translation by Glonoinha · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here's duh jive translation

      Sony announces WiFi Fileservuh in duh millin' one format 05.02.2003 at 11:00 o'clock MUNICH (COMPUTuh WEEK) - Japanese electronics company Sony has a portable file servuh presented which, which kommunziert ovuh Wireless LAN wif PCS and PDAs. Duh "Fsv-pg1" works wif a Linux based operatin' system and contains a 20-GB-Festplatte in duh 2,5-Zoll-Format, 17 GB uh it be available fo' usuh data. Duh equipment fits wif masses uh 83 x 155 x uh 31 millimetuhs loosely into a hand and weighs 390 gram. Fo' duh enterprise all din' a powuh pack be necessary, duh internal Akku serves only fo' bakin' UP purposes. Duh inserted ACCESS POINT (IEEE 802.11b) can serve accordin' to manufacturuh up to 250 usuhs at duh same time. Access to duh stored files be possible ovuh ftp, CIFS (Common InterNet file system) o' NFS. By a Ethernet Cradle available as accessories duh equipment can connect accessin' Clients by WLAN in addition wif duh InterNet. As safety functions duh Fsv-pg1 incomin' inspection codin' wif alternatively 64 o' 128 bits offuhs, stored files can by password be protected. On duh Nep & Com 2003 in Tokyo duh equipment be presented today to duh public fo' duh first time. It be to come at duh end uh March fo' converted 585 dolluh on duh Japanese market, duh Cradle costs again scarcely 60 dolluh. Whethuh and when duh equipment appeuhs also in dis country, be not well-known. Well slap my fro! Sho'nuf!

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  2. sPod? by D4Vr4nt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hack = Sony iPod?

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  3. ATTENTION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is that 17 gig's of porn on a 2.5" form-factor harddrive in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?

    1. Re:ATTENTION by hazyshadeofwinter · · Score: 5, Funny

      If I only had a 2.5" form factor, I wouldn't exactly be bragging about it.

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  4. Customization, ZeroConf support? by spankalee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Mac freaks have been speculating that the iPod will get 802.11 for a long time now... and sony beats them to it.

    I wonder how customizable the Linux install is. This type of device will be very usefull with ZeroConf. Any services it provides (mp3, divx streaming...) will automagically appear as soon as it joins the network. yippee.

  5. 17 of 20 gigs useable? by trmj · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What could possibly take up 3 gigs? C'mon, it's not the OS, they're using Linux. What else are they hiding on that drive that's using so much space?

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    1. Re:17 of 20 gigs useable? by sweetooth · · Score: 3, Informative

      What the heck are you talking about? There are plenty of Sony CDs on the crippled disc list.

      http://www.fatchucks.com/z3.cd.html

      Philips on the other hand is attempting to protect us (or thier name) from crippled cds by disallowing the use of the cd logos on cds that break from the standard.

      http://www.licensing.philips.com/information/cd/

    2. Re:17 of 20 gigs useable? by be-fan · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ever see a 20GB HD where 20GB was usable? Right off the bat, the difference between 10^3 and 2^30 addressing results in a 18.6GB capacity. Then there is formatting overhead. Then there is swap space. The OS paritition is probably less than 1GB.

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  6. Rendezvous by Garin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now, if we could get these things with rendezvous up and working, so they just automagically work with MacOS X (and eventually everything else).

    That'd be nice, to have a portable scratch-space drive or something like that, that you just plug in and suddenly it works for everyone :^)

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    1. Re:Rendezvous by Garin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Indeed it is available, with a version for Linux -- no porting required.

      http://developer.apple.com/macosx/rendezvous/

      I think this would make the pocket drive a truly must-have product for me.

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  7. Very Interesting by peatbakke · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is great -- basically a network storage appliance, without the wires. I wonder how the battery life is, although I suspect it's good for a few hours (similar to iPod).

    I'm definitely interested. I work with lots of people who are WiFi capable and need storage larger than CF cards. It seems like this could be a very handy device for independent consultants and developers on the move ... or in a location that hasn't been fully wired.

    Hmm. I'd like to see this in the US.

  8. its too slow!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think that sony has jumped the gun, they choose a technology limited to 11mbps. if anyone would try and do large transfers they are going to take a really long time. I hope that sony starts looking to add either 802.11a or 802.11g

    1. Re:its too slow!!!! by BJH · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's a hell of a lot more 802.11b equipment out there right now that won't be upgraded for a while. I think it's a reasonable move - they just issue a new model when 802.11g becomes widespread (since the 802.11b version will work with it quite happily).

  9. PDA Accessory by RPI+Geek · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This would be a great accessory to a PDA with an 802.11(a/b/g) card.

    Imagine plugging setting it up at a hotel or on a train and streaming your (legal ;) music without even using so much space as a hardcover book.

    This might entice me to actually get a PDA, if the proce drops.

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  10. But what is the battery life? by Jim+McCoy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I ask this question because it is going to be very, very tricky for Sony to pack much of a battery into the case with the size specs given (especially when using a 2.5" drive) and 802.11b is not exactly the most power-efficient spec. I guess that Sony was between a rock and a hard place on this particular choice, 802.11g is too new and there are not going to be any low power chips any time soon while bluetooth is too slow. By eating up the battery with a wireless link you are going to increase the number of charge cycles on the battery and decrease the lifespan of this battery.

    1. Re:But what is the battery life? by BJH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It doesn't run continuously on battery - the battery is only there for UPS functionality (I'm guessing maybe 10-15min battery life, just enough for you to pull out the power cord, walk over to the new location, and plug it in again).

  11. DRM? by Herby+Werby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While the thought of this little baby makes me drool, Sony's history on DRM is enough to make me sit back and wait for the new and inevitable Apple risponse with .11g. There's been so much talk of new iPods with 40G Tosh drives, Bluetooth, WiFi etc that something mighty fine must be imminent.

  12. WARHIKING! by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Pocket-sized, battery-powered Linux box w/20G hard drive, 802.11b port, small screen "console", and a way to attach (at least) an ethernet.

    Add a GPS and you've got a warhiking setup.

    Add intrusion tools plus automation and you've got an industrial espionage device, too. (Bad guy goes to an interview, hangs out in a waiting room, lobby, or parking lot, or hikes by on the sidewalk, while the pocket-sized box sucks down everything of interest on the internal net, or just sniffs packets for a while. 20G leaves plenty of room for netstumbler to crack the WEP.)

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  13. Re:ummmm, stupid by PetWolverine · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One point at a time:

    expensive

    Some people will be willing to shell out the cash; anyone else who finds it useful will wait until the price comes down a bit.

    easily lost or stolen

    For many people, this phrase translates to "portable"--not quite so negative a word as you'd like, but equally accurate. If you're worried about it getting stolen, zip your pocket.

    why not connect to your pc with your wireless devices, easier to back up, maintain, expand, view files

    PCs tend to remain on desktops, no? See previous point.

    and did i say stupid?

    Yes, in your subject line you admitted you were stupid. No need to repeat yourself.

    ummm, you stupid...and ummm stupid...did i say you are stupid?

    Ummm, saying stupid a bunch of times only makes it true for you...the rest of us are just as intelligent as we were before we read that.

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  14. I can think of a thousand uses for these things... by ubiquitin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Carry it around as a mobile classroom: serve up notes, audio, video of your presentation when and where you give it. No more "I'll email you my presentation when I get back to the office" stuff.

    You could hide one of these things in an airport or some other public place and use it to broadcast advertisements in the form of SSID and/or a 192.168.*.* intranet web site to anyone stumbling for accesspoints. Imagine a bus or taxicab service giving out dispatcher phone numbers or transportation rates. Suddenly advertising in an airport terminal isn't quite so expensive.

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  15. Shut up. by cioxx · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Yes, but what about SSH?

    Yeah. What about it?

    Get a life, Nerd!

    I'm really sick of this idiocy when a company announces a product and some broke nitpickers come out of the woodwork and say "But does it do XYZ?".

    Jesus Christ, get a grip. Technology will finally catch up. If Sony or any other company for that matter, created a killer product that did everything in one small package, there wouldn't be much competition left, or companies wouldn't be able to make any money.

    It's called steady progression. Suppy and demand. Simple case of Macroeconomics. Your opinion is utterly useless and insignificant in this case. If you're too eager to possess such a small toy with 802.11b AP built in, with 17Gigs of storage and have SSH, make one yourself and quit wasting slashdot's bandwidth with useless crap like feature suggestions only 0.001% of people would use.

    Realisticly speaking, how many businesspeople do you personally know who have the slightest fucking clue about SSH? I would guess none. Simple authentication is enough. This is not geared towards companies like Lloyds of London or Dell R&D Division who have valuable company secrets. This is geared towards people in SOHO, and we all know what they use these types of gadgets for.

    No self-respecting cracker would bother sniffing packets coming from a company who's annual budget is 10,000,000 or less.

    You're a poser.
  16. Computational brick by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's in a direction that's interesting to me, but not quite what I need. I have an application that needs a "computational brick".
    • IA-32 processor, about 2Ghz or so. 512MB of RAM. Hard drive. Ethernet and FireWire. No display.
    • Very rugged, suitable for mounting in an offroad racing truck.
    • Automotive temperature range.
    • Powered from the vehicle 12V supply.
    • Size and weight not too critical.
    Any suggestions?
  17. A related Sony gizmo by phr2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here's a Sony press release about a "giga vault" handheld 40Gb hard drive gizmo, with USB2 and Firewire but no 802.11. They do seem to be getting into the portable storage biz.

  18. Re:the first two things that come to mind by cgenman · · Score: 4, Funny
    Either that's a really small hand in the picture, or it's huge.

    Well, they are Japanese...

    Second, $585?!? Get outta here.

    Well, they are Japanese...

  19. REAL TRANSLATION by dew-genen-ny · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sony delivers a walkman format WiFi-Fileserver

    Munich(ComputerWoche) - Sony, the Japanese electronics firm have demonstrated a portable fileserver, that can connect to PCs and PDAs using Wireless LAN (protocol). The FSV-PG1 works with a linux based operating system, and has a 2.5 inch 20 GB harddrive, 17 GB of which are available to the user. The device , which is 83x155x31 millimeters fits neatly in your hand, and weighs 390 Gramms. It requires an external powersupply - the internal battery is only for backup use.

    The built in access point (IEEE 802.11b) can, according to sony, server up to 250 users at a time. Access to the data is possible via FTP, CIFS or NFS. There is also an ethernet-cradle available as an accessory which enables standard ethernet connections. Security is dealt with via 64 or 128 bit WEP. Saved data is protected via passwords.

    The devices will be publicly presented for the first time at the Net&Com 2003, Tokyo show. It should be available in Japan at the end of March for approximately 585 dollars, the Ethernet-Cradle costing approximately 60 Dollars. If and when the device will be available here (Germany) remains to be seen.

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