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Logitech Z-680 Dolby 5.1 PC Speakers Reviewed

PhatBass writes "PC Speakers certainly have come a long way from the little buzzers we used to listen to before the days of SoundBlaster. Remember the 'Windows Speaker Driver' that gave you more than beeps and buzzing through the little cone in your case? Well now we have full Dolby Surround Sound setups, THX Certified, the works, for Gaming, DVD and Multimedia bliss. Take a look at the sweet Z-680 setup from Logitech that is reviewed here, they sport 1000 Watts of Peak Power, a hardware Dolby Pro Logic II 5.1 Decoder, Digital Inputs and serious style."

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  1. Cat has my tongue by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I use my Yamaha AX6620 amp and Wharfedale diamond 8 5.1 setup with separate subwoofer for my PC's sound.

    Using a not-designed-for-pc sound system has its disadvantages, like the speakers are supposed to be shielded but aren't completely, but it's more than made up for by the sound quality.

    I used to use a creative 4.1 surround system for the pc, but it used to piss me off because it kept auto turning itself off at low sound levels and there was nowhere to plug headphones in (My main multimedia setup is separated by a thin wall from next door's bedroom so I use headphones after about 10pm).

    graspee

  2. THX setup? by Malc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let me see, my desk is against the wall, which puts me less than half a metre from the front three speakers. Unless I place the rear speakers in the way in the middle of the room behind me, I'm going to have put some major delay and volume adjustments in to the setup. 5.1 DD on a computer just sounds like a silly idea to me. 5.1 DD coming out of my XBox in the living room does work though ;)

    Oh, and as for that Windows speaker driver. It was a pain in the arse: the whole system would pause for playback of even the most simple sounds.

  3. THX certification != audiophile system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I don't trust that the spec values reported by Logitech would have much to do with those spec values that would be get if such setup would be measured according to normal audiophile standards. If you want to have some real high fidelity, give a try to monitor speakers by, for example, them (but do not expect them to be too cheap).

    1. Re:THX certification != audiophile system by gazbo · · Score: 4, Interesting
      True, yet bad advice. The truth is that most people wouldn't like monitor speakers, precisely because they are too "good". The goal of a monitor speaker is to produce a flat as possible frequency response curve. People aren't used to that.

      If you doubt this, just look at the majority of popular stereos with a "bass boost" button, which may as well be labeled as "ignore the equalisation performed by a professional engineer and producer, I want thumping".

      Of course in theory, graphic EQs on stereos should be used to tweak the signal to counteract the frequency attenuation of the speakers and electronics - but instead they are used to add bass etc.

      I reiterate: most people don't want accurate sound reproduction.

  4. As a matter on interest by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can any sound engineer types out there give a brief overview of the sound quality differentials between this standard of speaker with a good sound card and the sort of kit you can fork out a shed load of cash for at your local hifi dealer?.

    I know judgement of sound quality can be a very subjective thing but I am curious when I can get a PC sound system very reasonably but can (assuming I had the cash) pay thousands of dollars/euro in a store for hifi equipment. Is the price difference reflected in the sound quality ?

    For that matter how do I know my hearing is good enough to distinguish the difference ?

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  5. Watts? I need no watts, you fool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...they sport 1000 Watts of Peak Power...

    What the hell does peak power have to do with sound quality? My 75W speakers produce much nicer music than many 300W powerhouses. While I can see the "cool factor" of having enough power to bring down the house and ruin your hearing, I dont see much use for it. How many people do really find real use for this? What good reasons can you come up with to justify owning these?

    Oh, and "it scares the terrorists" is not good enough.

  6. Silly question.. by wowbagger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd like to ask a simple and possibly silly question:

    Why not just go to a normal stereo store, and buy a normal stereo?

    More PC speaker sets are designed to be small enough to not dominate your desk, as the idea is that your PC is not your primary music/movie station. This monster will require you to definitely change your layout for maximum effect.

    So if I am going to make my PC be my media hub, why not just buy a normal stereo system, and be done with it?

    Sure, a system like this might make sense if you are in a space limited environment like an apartment in a city, or a dorm.

  7. Look at the Related Links by Boss,+Pointy+Haired · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They are posting articles that correspond to OSDN affiliation elsewhere, and posting the URLs under related links.

    I'm not getting at /. for doing this, just thought i'd point it out incase anybody hadn't noticed.

  8. PC Speaker driver + audio rant by jakedata · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The PC speaker driver used pulse-width modulation to simulate audio waveforms. That is why it sounded so crunchy. It also CRUSHED your system while it was playing a sound because (I think) it was toggling an interrupt for each pulse. Did you notice how everything else stopped during playback?

    Somebody rolled the driver out to about 10 Win NT 4 boxen at my old office as an "upgrade". When we upgraded to Win 2000, the driver remained in place, and still worked. Gack.

    Now for the rant.

    Nothing exposes how poor MP3 (or even CDs) sound like owning a real quality pair of speakers connected to a clean amp. I have a Nakamichi AV-10 driving B&W DM-603 speakers. I connect the Nakamichi to the digital output of my Turtle Beach Montego soundcard, and it works well enough. Unfortunately, the fidelity of the system makes MP3 files almost unbearable for serious listening.

    So do yourselves a favor. If you listen to MP3, buy crappy PC speakers and let your imagination fill in the gaps.

    1. Re:PC Speaker driver + audio rant by Cirvam · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Sounds like your getting shitty mp3 files. If you get properly made ones at a correct bitrate there is no differance between the cd version and the mp3 version. Check out http://www.r3mix.net/ for more information, including graphs and results of a test that was done with some audiophiles and some expensive hardware.

  9. Speakers? Pah! by DarklordJonnyDigital · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At the risk of being downvoted, I don't like speakers at all. Headphones are the way to go. Not those awful one-dollar piezoelectric crystal widgets that go into your ears and break after a week because the wire was too thin. I'm talking about those massive black headphones that totally cover your ears, muffle external sound and sound better than most cheesy OEM speakers. Good for hearing the direction of your opponents' footsteps in Counterstrike, too. I remember first trying a set of these headphones out on the glass-house demolition test map of Red Faction... mmm...

    1. Re:Speakers? Pah! by Bobman1235 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      At the risk of being downvoted, I don't like speakers at all. Headphones are the way to go.


      Ya, if you don't mind your ears having permanent damage way too early in life. It has been well-proven that having an audio source directly shot into your ear at close range for any extended period of time is far more damaging than a roomfull of speakers at an equal decibel range. Much more strain on your ears. It's recommended you never listen to headphones at any volume for more than an hour at a time. If I ever had to shut off my music every hour I think I'd kill someone. Stick to a good set of speakers, you might actually be able to hear when you're old.

    2. Re:Speakers? Pah! by mindstrm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      References please? Every study I've ever read attributed this to how they were used, and not the headphones themselves (usually earbuds). I mean they were used walking around outside, in noisy environments, etcetera.

      If you use GOOD headphones, a GOOD amp, and preferably a GOOD source, and listen in a proper environment (a quiet room), you have no problems. It's no different than listening to speakers.

    3. Re:Speakers? Pah! by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Stop and think. Why do you need to listen to headphones at the same decibel range when they are a centimeter from your ear? And if you have good headphones, the clarity and detail will let you listen to your music at a *quieter* level and still hear more nuances than you could with your speaker system.

  10. Imagine the same measurement on a car. by NKJensen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1000 watts peak is pure fiction.

    It is similar to a measurement on a car, where you rev up the engine to max and suddenly let go of the clutch. I'm sure most car engines will "measure" more than 5 times the sustained max power for a few milliseconds.

    A 1960 VW Beetle 1100 cc engine has 150 horsepowers if you measure that way.

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  11. Re:DRM ? by racerx509 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Thats really funny, but its starting to become a problem. For owners of a Creative Sound Blaster Live! or Audigy system, the new DRM enabled drivers will actually mute the digital channel output upon playing certain DRM equipped files. That $600 digital decoder based 5.1 DD system is useless when you want to listen to a DRM encoded WMA song.

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  12. Re:Why the marketing relality distorion field? by macshit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "RMS". No, not Stallman. "Root Mean Squared"

    An interesting aside is that Stallman, one time when he went to Japan, had a `hanko' made for himself (a hanko is a little name stamp that Japanese use instead of a signature). What's on his hanko? The formula for root-mean-squared!

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  13. Do NOT buy "computer speakers" by burris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you want good sound, you want to get some professional "nearfield monitors." These are designed to be used with computers and sound excellent. Go to your local pro audio store, they will have many models ranging from a few hundred bucks for passive ones to many thousands of dollars for very powerful ones with active crossovers. Good brands include Genelec, Tannoy, Hafler, and even Mackie.

    It is very highly recommended that you get ones with digital inputs or get a seperate digital>analog converter. At that point the weakness will be your room. You can build "Helmholtz Resistors" (boxes with a specific volume of confined air) to absorb bass frequencies centered around your major room mode.

    burris

  14. junk by TheJesusCandle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just like everything else that has the words "computer" on it related to audio.

    If you want really good computer speakers to listen to music on or as a good audio refrence... go to your local guitar center and buy a set of studio monitors and a studio amp... they're over in the mixer section...

    For the same amount of cash as these overpriced and horribly overrated junk you can get something real.

    I found the most entertaining the 1000 watt rating.. Yeah right. in low-end car audio ratings... I have a Crown stereo amp here that is only 25 watts and cost $400.00 and will kick the crap out of anyone's home stereo that cost around $400.00

    a watt rating is 100% useless... tell me the watt rating RMS at a distortion level. anything higher than 0.05% THD is junk.