Even Sun Can't Use Java

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Posted by CmdrTaco on Sunday February 9, 2003 @01:46AM from the frighteningly-honest dept.

cowmix writes "It turns out that Sun does not eat its own dog food. Specifically, this internal memo from Sun strongly suggests that Java should not be used for Sun's internal projects. More interesting still, they go on to state which other languages fullfil Java's goals better than Java does itself. Finally, the memo states Sun's own Solaris is the cause of many of Java's woes. Yikes."

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It would be interesting to find... by BitwizeGHC · 2003-02-09 01:51 · Score: 4, Funny

... a memo which says that Sun has standardized on C# and Microsoft .NET.

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1. Re:It would be interesting to find... by Anonymous Coward · 2003-02-09 01:59 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  And equally as unlikely. You think the JRE is bad - have you seen how Microsoft's .NET runtime performs on Solaris?
  
  (Blah... blah... Mono... Free... chasing a moving wall in order to pound your head against it...)
2. Re:It would be interesting to find... by Anonymous Coward · 2003-02-09 06:14 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  How many times do you have to visit a web site that gives you 15 popup windows complaining about script errors in IE?
  You do know that that's Javascript which is nothing to do with Java, right?
  Who here hasn't had to download an older version of the JRE because you've found a program that doesn't work on the newer versions.
  Yes, inter-version compatibility is a big problem, as mentioned in the Sun memo.
  Yeah, it was cool back in the days before DHTML, Flash, and XML. But now it offers very little additional functionality.
  Oh for chrissake! The memo is talking about large applications. As in, not java applets. Read the damn memo. And get a clue. "Java was cool back in the days before ... XML. But now it offers very little additional functionality"? What does that even mean? It sounds like you're just throwing buzzwords around. I suppose C offers little functionality over ASCII, and C# just isn't cool now we have WordPerfect and ISO9660?
FUD by Anonymous Coward · 2003-02-09 02:11 · Score: 1, Funny

this is more microsoft FUD. . . oh wait...
ok so its more SUN FUD. Sun is trying to kill java because its open source! hacker freedom!
Re:Not Java but the Solaris JRE by jcr · 2003-02-09 02:28 · Score: 5, Funny

Sure, Java doesn't suck, it's just the JRE.

And communism doesn't suck, it's just all the implementations!

-jcr

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Re:Not Java but the Solaris JRE by Anonymous Coward · 2003-02-09 02:34 · Score: 1, Funny

I see! Java is communist. McNealy is both Lenin and Trotsky personified. Thank you for enlightening me.
Re:shoot self in foot, then head ... by the+eric+conspiracy · 2003-02-09 02:37 · Score: 2, Funny

Did you see the entry for C#?

"The gun fires just fine, but your foot can't figure out what the bullets are and ignores them."

Quite amusing.
Yeah... by SILIZIUMM · 2003-02-09 02:45 · Score: 1, Funny

Seems that Java might not be Sun's cup of tea anymore... err...

*hides*
Re:Not Java but the Solaris JRE by abe+ferlman · 2003-02-09 02:48 · Score: 5, Funny

Don't forget "Capitalism doesn't suck, it's just all the corporations!"

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Re:Hypocrisy? by smd4985 · 2003-02-09 03:24 · Score: 5, Funny

"The note is certain to be used by Microsoft in their appeal against the Java injunction."

Um, no.
First off, who knows if the note is even authentic.
Secondly, what will be MS's argument?:
"Judge, Sun feels they should improve their Java product. As you know, the law states that no company should be able to improve their products, unless they are us, and we can improve other people's products, but only for Windows. Thank you."

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level 5? by Anonymous Coward · 2003-02-09 03:39 · Score: 1, Funny

How many business experience points does that ake?
Re:Not Java but the Solaris JRE by Anonymous Coward · 2003-02-09 04:31 · Score: 1, Funny

"99% of corporations work as intended. They maximize profit for the shareholders and provide services like food, cars and this nice Internet we all enjoy."

Welcome to our universe. It's nice to know corporations work so well in yours. Can you take some of our CEOs back when you return home?
Re:hoax, this memo is by Anonymous Coward · 2003-02-09 11:07 · Score: 2, Funny

Obviously if the domain is "internalmemos.com" it must be an internal memo.

Otherwise, they would have called it "internalmemohoaxes.com". Try using this thing called "logic."