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NYTimes: Tangled Up in Spam

ezekieldas writes "Congratulations to the SpamAssassin developers and community! There's a mention of SA in the NYTMag as "one of the best tools for network administrators..." in an extensive article entitled Tangled Up in Spam. The article is quite substantial and the author, James Gleick, is more technically educated than what we've come to expect from the big press. Central to the story is the complexity in dealing with spam effectively in both technical and legal terms and the confusion it brings upon the neophyte. The conclusion drawn may be oversimplified but nonetheless pragmatic: 1) forged headers should be illegal 2) a specific header entry should identify the email as unsolicited."

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  1. evolution users by asv108 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The one big feature missing for me in evolution is a spam filter. Fortunately, spamassassin works great even if you have to run it locally. Here are some instructions for evolution users who need to run it locally or are lucky enough to have spamassassin installed on their mail server.

  2. Re:illegal by fmaxwell · · Score: 4, Informative

    illegal is great in theory, but there is no possible way to enforce that on a world wide basis.


    It's impossible to enforce almost any laws with 100% effectiveness, but that does mean that we should ignore the problem. If some sleazeball in Florida hires a firm in Korea to spam me, put his ass in jail.

    white lists are the only way to stop spam.

    I'm amazed by this user-hostile suggestion every time I hear it. Suppose you post your resumé on Monster.com. Who are you going to whitelist? Suppose your friend changes ISPs and then tries to e-mail you his new address? It won't be whitelisted, so it will bounce. Suppose to fill out a tech support request form. You don't know the address of the person that will contact you (or even if they will be the same domain as the web site).

  3. Re:MIT's Post Servers... by jdreed1024 · · Score: 4, Informative
    now use SpamAssassin. Basically, a set of new headers is attached to the e-mail of the form X-Spam-foo, and if X-Spam-Score is 7.5 or greater (on a scale of 10 I believe), then X-Spam-Flag is yes. It's really useful for sorting out spam quickly, and I haven't gotten a false positive yet...It doesn't get all of the spam, but it gets the vast majority of it...

    Some more clarification:
    -it's not on a scale of 10 - the SA score can go as high as necessary. I got 27 the other day. Your threshold will be configurable (sometime next week) to "high" (3.0), "normal" (7.5), or "low" (12.0), or a custom number. You'll also have custom whitelists and blacklists.

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  4. Go with POPFile. by TDScott · · Score: 4, Informative

    SpamAssassin's a great idea, but for the non-technically minded user, POPFile's the best choice. Bayesian filters, learning, kickass UI, and a Windows installer (and Perl for other platforms.)

  5. the Author's version of the article by gleick · · Score: 4, Informative

    For what it's worth, an ever-so-slightly longer version, lacking a few bits of Times editing, is posted here, at my own site. And may I say how helpful and fascinating the many Slashdot discussions of this subject have been?

  6. Re:Kudos to SA. by jafiwam · · Score: 4, Informative

    Heh. I assume you are honestly asking and not bragging about how little SPAM you get to make me jealous...

    Here are the vectors for getting on lists that I know of;

    - using a valid email address in newsgroups
    - using a valid email address on a web page
    - using a valid email address in form properties in a web page
    - using a valid email address on a mailing list or web-forum
    - using a valid email address for domain registration contacts
    - using a valid email address to sign a web page up for a search spider
    - having an email address that can be "brute forced" (i.e. almost all of them)
    - your pal puts an email address in an "e-vite" or "e-greeting"
    - getting a virus that spreads via email

    And above all, being naive about the workings of the Internet, when only a few weeks of ignorance will permenently get the address out there "in the wild". Just about everybody is this at one at one time or another.

    Some people cannot avoid having email addresses hung out there on the Internet, so getting on the lists is more or less inevitable if you are doing business or communicating on the Internet in any meaningful way. Since I cannot ignore what comes in the boxes I run, I MUST sort through whatever arrives. That makes SPAM a big issue for me.

    Your usage of your email addresses is probably typical (not on web pages and so on..) but you are probably fortunate to both be clueful about it and not dealing with your email address publicly available out of necessity.

  7. Re:At last by qengho · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can't wait for the new tricks spammers will use to disable anti-spam programs.

    Wait no more. I got a spam today that purported to be an apology for how the sender got my address, something like "so sorry, but these stupid porn sites like [link] must have sent me a virus. I can't believe my kids are visiting sites like [another link] even though I never go to sites like [yet another link], blah blah blah."

    I have to admire the creativity of spammers even as I wish for Bad Things to happen to them.