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Apple's X11 Beta Updated

Nick Rosencrans writes "Apple has updated its X11 software (still in beta) to version 0.2 and is freely available on Apple's site."

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  1. Thank you Apple... by ActiveSX · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The lack of focus follows cursor in the pretty Aqua-y WM is the one thing that really bummed me out about 0.1. Now if I could only get it for the rest of the operating system...

    1. Re:Thank you Apple... by mbbac · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Focus follows pointer isn't a good idea when you have a global menu bar.

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    2. Re:Thank you Apple... by spitzak · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Actually I think there is a solution to that.

      The first thing I thought of was to not have the menubar change for awhile so that moving the mouse up to it over other windows does not change it.

      But now I think a much better idea is to not change it until you type to a window. Thus you can move the mouse to point at and highlight windows all you want, but the menubar does not change and thus you can continue moving to it to pull down a menu. Typing any key (including pushing down the command key for a menu shortcut) will switch the menubar to match the current focuesed window.

      Clicking on the titlebar of a window would raise it, make it have the focus, and change the menubar.

      Clicking inside a window would probably act exactly like the titlebar, if I can predict how Apple would design it. However I would prefer the apps to not raise unless the click was in a "dead" area such as blank background or anything where clicking does nothing, but clicking on a button or text field does not raise the window. In this case if you click on a button it is not clear if this should change the menubar. Anything that raises the window, including the app doing it itself, should change the menubar.

    3. Re:Thank you Apple... by anarkhos · · Score: 2, Insightful

      However it is a good idea if you want to confuse the hell out of your customers.

      Is that window active or inactive? Huh? I have to move my mouse to type? Huh?

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  2. Re:well, that's weird. by Morth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Like some other recent Apple downloads, this one used Disc Copy to copy itself to the desktop and then auto-unmount.

  3. Re:My how times change... by entrylevel · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ooh I'll make a version number joke. Ooh 11+1=12. Ooh I'll use the Emacs as a punchline. Ooh I'll make a lame Spinal Tap reference (hard to do, admittedly, especially with that scene, but you did it, iksowrak). And so on and so on...

    I swear I never used to empathize with the "moderators on crack" reply, but the comment I'm replying to was by far funnier than any of the other "+5, Funny" comments in this thread.

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