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NCR Patents the Internet

An anonymous reader writes "We all know about NCR's lawsuit against Palm & Handspring, but I haven't seen much press about patent infringements they are claiming against some of the biggest sites on the planet. According to documentation that a friend's company has recently received, their patents protect everything from keyword searching to product categorization. Patents to look for (and filed in 1998) include 6,253,203, 6,169,997, 6,151,601, 6,085,223 and 5,991,791 . IMHO, this is absolutely outrageous and is likely to cause billions in both legal fees and eventual licensing fees (eBay, Amazon and MSFT have already licensed from NCR). How is this not the lead story on every site? every day? Maybe because no one wants to get sued for having an online business."

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  1. It's about time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally, someone will make money off the internet.

    1. Re:It's about time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Isn't science supposed to be unpatentable if it prohibits evolution?

      That's why they wouldn't let me patent creationism! Damn them all to hell!

    2. Re:It's about time... by zachjb · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well that's because you can't patent something that doesn't work.

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  2. They missed one by slight42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    They also patented the first post!

    1. Re:They missed one by spike+hay · · Score: 3, Funny

      They also patented the first post!

      Wow! Good thing you didn't get FP, or you might have gotten sued!

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  3. Lets patent the patent process! by t0qer · · Score: 1, Funny

    Since the topic is on crazy patents...

    Has anyone ever tried to patent the patent process itself? Heck, since such stupid things as using laser pointers as a cat toy are patentable, why not do something completely insane and patent the actual process of getting a patent.

    I can just see the waves of patent lawers out in the street screaming about how they have to now pay ME the holder of the patent on patenting royaltee's everytime they file a patent.

    As stupid as an idea this may sound, look at how stupid the patent office is already. I think someone with the balls and cash should do it, just as a wake up call to the USPO.

  4. Re:And if this isnt enough... by m4ximusprim3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    everyone knows al gore did that

  5. Hey wait... by shadwwulf · · Score: 2, Funny

    Umm... Doesn't Al Gore have prior art on inventing the internet?

  6. Re:And we're all REALLY going to pay by Quantum+Jim · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sure, REALLY, I (or anybody else) is REALLY going to pay NCR for inventing the internet.

    Can't Al Gore claim prior art?

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  7. Re:Sky Falling: Film at 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    I thought we did patent hysteria on Thursdays.

    Nope. That's duplicate story day.

  8. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't you mean "Not making money on the internet was patented by Amazon"?

  9. Re:evidence please by Mitreya · · Score: 4, Funny
    Is there proof of this?

    Of course...! Ask any of our customers who have increased their penis size by at least 3". And all the millionaires that made their money from the internet and have retired comfortably...
    Act now and you may have the same licence that Ebay, Amazon and MSFT has at 1/2 the price they paid! This is not a scam!

    This was my first reaction anyways. No proof and this claim sound suspiciously familiar to spam I regularly receive...

  10. Re:Another example of WHY the US Patent office suc by rmadmin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hrmm... I'm going to apply for a patent to having sex on a swing. I'm surprised its not already.. oh fsck.. the secrets out!

  11. What about Al Gore? by Limburgher · · Score: 1, Funny

    Shouldn't HE have those patents?:)

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  12. Re:It's all right, I've just solved the problem! by wastaz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ooooh

    But I just patented the idea of patenting patents!
    You owe me money!

  13. Re:Another example of WHY the US Patent office suc by taniwha · · Score: 4, Funny
    I like the following clause from it which kind of implies some kid's parent wrote the patent for him - in a similar manner to kids getting politicians to pass them a law making this "state day of the eggplant" or whatever:

    Lastly, it should be noted that because pulling alternately on one chain and then the other resembles in some measure the movements one would use to swing from vines in a dense jungle forest, the swinging method of the present invention may be referred to by the present inventor and his sister as "Tarzan" swinging. The user may even choose to produce a Tarzan-type yell while swinging in the manner described, which more accurately replicates swinging on vines in a dense jungle forest. Actual jungle forestry is not required.

    It does however have one redeeming quality - it's one of the most readable patents I've ever seen

  14. Re:6,169,997 is about WebSite LOGS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh great. Now an excuse of screw customers.

    Dear AOL (l)users,
    Due to the patents held by NCR, we are unable to respect you privacy.

    Thanks for your attention.

    The marketing team at AOLTW

  15. The US Patent Office website violate this patent. by dark-br · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.uspto.gov/ appears to violate all those patents itself !

  16. Do-it-yourself patent ideas: by Yekrats · · Score: 5, Funny
    Are you hankerin' for a new patent idea? Fill in the blank...

    "Exactly like _________, except it's on the Internet!"

    NCR Corporation provides us with some examples to get you going:
    • Exactly like a database, except it's on the Internet.
    • Exactly like a secure database, except it's on the Internet.
    • Exactly like a commerce database, except it's on the Internet.
    • Exactly like a database client, except it's on the Internet.
    • Exactly like computer security, except it's on the Internet.
    Thanks, NCR!
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  17. Re:Another example of WHY the US Patent office suc by bheerssen · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's classic. My favorite quote comes at the very end.

    Lastly, it should be noted that because pulling alternately on one chain and then the other resembles in some measure the movements one would use to swing from vines in a dense jungle forest, the swinging method of the present invention may be referred to by the present inventor and his sister as "Tarzan" swinging. The user may even choose to produce a Tarzan-type yell while swinging in the manner described, which more accurately replicates swinging on vines in a dense jungle forest. Actual jungle forestry is not required.

    Licenses are available from the inventor upon request. "


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  18. Re:Good News, Add Fuel to the Anti-Patent Fire by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    As owner of several patents for methods of winning a patent battle, I say you can't win it.

    Unless you remit a $3,000 fee for the battle.

    Keep in mind, I also have a patent for winning a patent war through a series of patent battles. Fees escalate with each successive battle.

  19. What are we doing tonight, Brain? by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think I will patent a system for the production of specific enzymes through the use of transportable and duplicable molecular combinations through polymerase enzymes.

    I will then demand license fees for the operation of DNA in every lifeform on Earth.

  20. Re:Another example of WHY the US Patent office suc by cei · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about Penn Jillette's (of Penn & Teller) patent for arousing women in a hot tub?

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  21. Re:Not really by mark-t · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought that making money off the internet was pioneered by the pornography industries.

  22. Quick Question by thumbtack · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did Al Gore ever work for NCR?

  23. Hey! This gives me an idea! by rdhill316 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Application for a US Patent:
    Title: A Method for the Protection of Exclusive Property Right

    Abstract: The method is comprised of a system consisting of three parts: a) a mechanism for notifying a controlling unit of a new device or process, or a modification to an existing one; b) a process for notifying the public of approval of said innovation; and c) a mechanism for enforcing the intellectual property rights of the creator of the innovation.

    Think the USPTO will mind if I try and patent patents? :-)

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  24. Re:Another example of WHY the US Patent office suc by Sneftel · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd like to appeal this patent. Please, everyone email me lots and lots of prior art for the lawsuit. Both video and still photos are acceptable.

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  25. thank goodness by kisrael · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, thankgoodnes they took out these patents... otherwise we wouldn't have keyword searching or product categorization or anything in between! Online shopping would suck! Yay NCR.

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  26. Re:Not really by silvwolf · · Score: 2, Funny

    THAT YOU PR0N LOVIN PERVS!!!!

    You're welcome.