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Slashback: Regalia, Godseye, Undetection

Slashback tonight with a round of updates and clarifications on Yahoo! v. France, William Gibson's new book(tour), lowish-tech helping to solve the Columbia mystery, searchable utra-localized information and more. Read on for the details.

How very magnanimous. Amazing Quantum Man writes "ZDNet reports that Timothy Koogle and Yahoo were acquitted of condoning war crimes by selling Nazi memorabilia. The article is rather sketchy, so that's all I have. Here are some background articles from Slashdot history."

He doesn't sign anything, just sprinkles on some invisible nanobots. shawn writes "The Penguin Group's site has a schedule of upcoming book signing events for Willam Gibson's Pattern Recognition . The new book was mentioned on Slashdot earlier."

And now Gisbon's new book has been reviewed, as well. Look out for a review of the No Maps For These Territories DVD (with extras) soon too.

Aren't you glad some people are realistic enough to be paranoid? For everyone worried about your ISP suddenly deciding to detect and crack down on everyone who's taken advantage of the currently ubiquitous, simple-to-use NAT hardware (here's the post we ran about the means to snoop behind your NAT box, which links to the Bellovin paper mentioned below), an anonymous reader writes with one way to foil detection efforts: "Good news coming from OpenBSD camp! Read CVS log message (mail archive): 'Add scrub option 'random-id', which replaces IP IDs with random values for outgoing packets that are not fragmented (after reassembly), to compensate for predictable IDs generated by some hosts, and defeat fingerprinting and NAT detection as described in the Bellovin paper.'"

Right place at the right time when the wrong thing happens. fonixmunkee writes "an 11-year-old Mac and a COTS (commercial-of-the-self) telescope may have captured a very helpful image in solving the shuttle Columbia tragedy. this article here at CNN tells the story of how some self-proclaimed 'geeks,' working on an Air Force project aimed at watching satellites & incoming missiles, whipped up a contraption with some simple parts that captured an image of the shuttle on descent that may offer some light on what happened. also interesting is how many news sources mistook the image as a capture from the high-tech cameras that the people *actually* worked on."

Just a scratch in the historical record. truthsearch writes "In response to a leaked Sun memo complaining of Sun's Java implementation on Solaris, News.com has Sun's response. Many posters doubted its authenticity (myself included due to missing dates), but 'Sun confirmed the memo's authenticity, but said that the document is two years old and that the problems it describes have been fixed.'"

GPS, free databases -- these are a few of my favorite things ... Tony Pryor writes: "In April 2001, while there at arsDigita University, I developed a web interface called the Godseye Project, designed to enable 'grassroots cartography,' allowing individuals with web access to add subjective knowledge details about their surroundings to closeup satellite images. Although I wrote Godseye over a year and a half ago, it isn't currently online- I'll spare you the gory details of the events between then and now.

I just wrote two new pieces which *are* live. The first is a script that dynamically adds geolocation pages using Movable Type, and automatically registers each of them with http://www.geourl.org. The second part is a geolocation-based search centered upon any one of these geopages. The search aggregates the results of consecutive google queries on each of the sites (or geopages) within a given radius."

Visit the still-growing Godseye Project to test out this cool geographic search capability; Tony promises that the functionality will improve with lots of visitors and suggestions.

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  1. Sat tracking... by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 4, Informative

    Satellite tracking itself isn't too hard, it is tracking a object that is entering the atmosphere that is tough.

    Sat Tracker allows you to track/image sats with a LX200 chipset telescope.

    1. Re:Sat tracking... by AmigaAvenger · · Score: 3, Informative
      Might as well add a link to a couple other progs in case anyone wants to play around with them...

      Sat tracking software

  2. they missed the obvious way by sydlexic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For everyone worried about your ISP suddenly deciding to detect and crack down on everyone who's taken advantage of the currently ubiquitous, simple-to-use NAT hardware..., an anonymous reader writes with one way to foil detection efforts:

    The problem with this paper is that it describes an overly complicated way to detect multiple IP's behind a NAT firewall when there is a much easier, simpler and already used method: transparent proxying of HTTP and checking the browser identifier.

    Shocking, but true. Many ISP's already use this method to scan all of your outbound HTTP traffic. Figuring out if you have more than one computer (especially if their OS or browser's are different) is trivial.

    The only way to defeat this is to implement your own proxy (like squid) and have it re-write HTTP headers. Or... run all machines with the exact same configuration.

    1. Re:they missed the obvious way by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some of us use multiple browsers. I use Safari on my Mac (for testing purposes) as well as Chimera. On my PC, I use IE and Phoenix. On my Linux box, Konq and Galeon. So that's by no means a foolproof solution. :)

    2. Re:they missed the obvious way by rabidcow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Its not foolproof but its a pretty good bet that if you're getting more than one OS string from the browser ID within say 10 seconds from each other from the same IP there's more than one computer there.

      There's 4 computers on our network with the exact same OS on them.

      You might as well throw darts at a board and read the score as the number of computers behind the firewall.

  3. Which Gibson is it again? by Some+Bitch · · Score: 3, Funny

    He doesn't sign anything, just sprinkles on some invisible nanobots.

    Is this William Gibson we're talking about or Steve Gibson?

  4. Signing URL by Nix0n · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since Penguin's homepage is several clicks away from the actual signing schedule page, try this: Gibson Rocks Come on, submitters, you can do better than that.

  5. ISPs "cracking down" on NAT users by rickthewizkid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wonder what will happen if ISPs were to limit their customers' ability to use NAT devices...

    Either they will lose customers in droves due to the fact that the users can no longer use their fancy-schmancy Linksys router to connect all their computers together, or the router manufacturers will cook up an option in thier firmware to use the NAT-hiding approach mentioned above...

    Just my 192.168.1.1's worth
    --RickTheWizKid
    P.S.: FIRST INTELLIGENT POST :)

    1. Re:ISPs "cracking down" on NAT users by Target+Drone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wish ISPs would just bill like other utilities. You pay a fixed cost per month + X dollars for every GB of traffic. Instead they charge a flat rate and put all sorts of rules on what you can do such as no Servers, no NATs, etc. They should just provide Internet service to me rather then sniffing my packets to try and see if I'm running a Windows machine and XBox behind a NAT. The electric company doesn't care what appliances I hook up, they just bill me for what I use.

      </rant>

    2. Re:ISPs "cracking down" on NAT users by Tokerat · · Score: 3, Insightful


      They are afraid of misuse. They don't want people running warez servers or spam sites. Thank you, $krypt K1ddi3z.

      It's a sad world when an ISP can be held reponsible for user misuse. It's not like the electric company is the party responsible when somebody throws a toaster in a bathtub with someone else in it...

      --
      CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
  6. Hah. by OverRated · · Score: 4, Funny
    an 11-year-old Mac and a COTS (commercial-of-the-self) telescope

    What, he pulled it out of his ass?

  7. Perceptive Management by theGreater · · Score: 4, Funny

    [snip] ...The people who work here are geeks. [/snip]

    Finally, management who understands! Now when are they going to let me start dinking around with gadgets at work when I have a good idea, instead of telling me to file more paperwork.

    -theGreater Geek.

  8. Columbia Picture by sparkhead · · Score: 3, Interesting

    also interesting is how many news sources mistook the image as a capture from the high-tech cameras that the people *actually* worked on."

    Yes, that is interesting. Interesting in a way that might make one wonder if this story is total fabrication to conceal the existence of higher-quality images from the "professional" scopes at that site.

    Not saying I believe that's the case, but it is simply more fodder for the anti-NASA conspiracists

    1. Re:Columbia Picture by RadRafe · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here is the relevant quote from the earlier article: "[Lt. Col. Andy] Roake said that the Air Force will transmit classified images and data to Columbia accident investigators on the condition that they not be made public."

      You see, they can't release the photos from the Starfire Optical Range until NASA's examined them, because if they did that, the uninformed public would leap to conclusions. But that doesn't mean they were trying to misinform us about the origin of the picture. I think they just made an honest mistake.

      ...more fodder for the anti-NASA conspiracists
      I didn't know there was a conspiracy against NASA. Did you mean, anti-NASA conspiracy theorists?

  9. Gibson chokes in Boulder, CO by GrendelAlex · · Score: 3, Interesting
    No really! He quite literally coughed up a lung in front of us after some water went down the wrong pipe. The Father of Cyberspace was at the Boulder Bookstore this past Tuesday night reading from pR. A very cool guy and extremely modest in person given his fame and prestige amongst the gadget adorned attendees.

    I asked him for some pearl of wisdom. He offered: "Never eat anything bigger than your head!" Should have thought *a head* and gotten a few extra signed books for eBay... ;) - Alex

    1. Re:Gibson chokes in Boulder, CO by erturs · · Score: 3, Funny

      No really! He quite literally coughed up a lung in front of us after some water went down the wrong pipe.


      Now there's a memorable souvenir to take home with you from a signing -- a famous writer's lung!
  10. Dear Slashdot by falsification · · Score: 4, Informative

    regalia != memorabilia

  11. Gibson reading at UW by lucasw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I saw Gibson do a reading at the University of Washington about a week ago. The lecture hall was packed- I get the feeling he isn't quite mainstream but having comparative literature courses that feature Neuromancer and occasional media references to the 'inventor of cyberspace' probably help with that.

    Gibson mentioned the book started coming together after he was sent by Wired to meet with a lot of music video directors at a festival a few years back- He even fictionalized the Bjork video with the sexy female robots into background material for one of the main characters.

  12. That'll work by hayden · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The problem with this paper is that it describes an overly complicated way to detect multiple IP's behind a NAT firewall when there is a much easier, simpler and already used method: transparent proxying of HTTP and checking the browser identifier.
    And when somebody fires up IE because a site they are looking at doesn't work in Mozilla? Or they change their browser ID to make a site that checks the browser type before letting you access it?
    --
    Nerd: Derogatory term typically directed at anybody with a lower Slashdot ID than you.
  13. Tour dates URL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    here is a direct link to William Gibson tour dates information.

  14. Sun's JVM Woes by IanBevan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    'Sun confirmed the memo's authenticity, but said that the document is two years old and that the problems it describes have been fixed

    The problem is that many of these issues are not fixed in the 1.3 JVM, which is still the one that most enterprise systems ship with (WebLogic for example). I've just done a six month contract performance testing a WebLogic 6.1 J2EE application on Solaris and I can tell you now that performance of their JVM is less than stellar. Memory requirements, for example, are insane.
  15. Already by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 4, Informative

    When I was looking for broadband some providers made you pay extra for the privilege of connecting more than one computer, with fines if you used a NAT and got caught.

    I think currently most providers take the sensible option of allowing it but not supporting it.

    I am told that similarly, phone companies made you pay when you hooked up another telephone to your existing line, but this was challenged in court and declared illegal.

    Tim

    --
    Omnia vestra castrorum habetur nobis.
  16. Yahoo v. France by (nil) · · Score: 4, Funny
    ZDNet reports that Timothy Koogle and Yahoo were acquitted of condoning war crimes by selling Nazi memorabilia.

    France surrenders.

    -(())

  17. Not 'Yahoo v. France', dammit -- RTFA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Read the freaking article. It's Jewish groups that happen to be based in France who sued, not the French government. Actually, from what I know, most French people don't even approve this pointless lawsuit.

  18. Re:Shuttle Simulator by MrDelSarto · · Score: 3, Informative

    yeah, and here is a good site about it. You can even download it from here, i guess it is classed as abandonware.

    I remember you could play "realistic" mode where the shuttle platform moves out in real time, which is about 3 days I think. now that's realism!

    if you bought it, it came with a *huge* wall chart with all the switches. The two real life shuttle disasters look positivley pedestrian compared to some of my botched landings in that game.