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Symantec Claims They Knew About Slammer In Advance

truthsearch writes "Wired is reporting 'Symantec claims to have identified the Slammer worm that ravaged the Internet during the last weekend of January hours before anyone else did. Symantec then shared the information only with select customers, leaving the rest of the global community to get slapped around by Slammer.' I'm not bothered I didn't know Slammer was coming, but Symantec has a moral responsibility to inform the public if it thinks millions will be affected." It isn't clear to me how Symantec could know, hours in advance, about a worm which took ten minutes to spread throughout the entire Internet, unless they had something to do with its release. Update: 02/14 16:54 GMT by M : Wired has their math wrong; Symantec apparently had at most 20-30 minutes of early warning. Symantec claims in this press release that they discovered the worm "hours before it began rapidly propagating".

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  1. Moral responsability is bollocks by Akardam · · Score: 4, Informative

    At least from a "We're a company, we exist to make money" standpoint. Symantec maintains that privledged list precisely so they can make money - they offer a "tell you before I tell anyone else" service, and people are obviously willing to pay for that.

    Besides, I highly doubt Symantec is the cause of slammer, and because of that, they don't have any moral obligation to let anybody know about it. On top of that, we're talking about a matter of hours, not days or weeks. They probably told their clients "Uh, we think something's coming, so watch out". I highly doubt they would have had specifics.

    Not trying to flame here or anything, but let's be a little realistic. If anyone's to blame, it should be Microsoft, for releasing the buggy program in the first place, or the sysadmins for not applying the paches, yadda yadda yadda.

  2. Re:Doubtful. by spring · · Score: 5, Informative

    Through acquisition, Symantec has access to several firms that have deployed "sensors" in many locations around the 'net. These sensors relay actvity information back to a central location.

    Symantec correlates this information, and determines threats. They then relay this information to customers of the subscription service.

    This may be what they are referring to.

  3. Re:So? by phil+reed · · Score: 4, Informative
    Have you even looked at those patches? Microsoft patches, especially in a system like SQLServer, have a tendency to break running code. So, you can't just fling it onto a production server. Further, the bug exists in a database component that gets installed with a whole lot of other Microsoft software (like Visio, a CAD-like program). And reading the "how to install this patch" instructions would scare off almost everybody -- it's not automated like Windows Update.


    Sorry, but installing patches is a non-trivial exercise.

    --

    ...phil
    "For a list of the ways which technology has failed to improve our quality of life, press 3."
  4. Re:Bag of Hammers (was "Big Surprise") by lvdrproject · · Score: 5, Informative
    Ok, i haven't reached the bottom of this page yet, but i'm willing to bet a couple dozen posters made this same mistake.

    The plural of "virus" is "viruses". Aside from that, Latin plurals end in "i", not "ii". For example, "magus" becomes "magi", not "magii". The notion of Latin plurals ending in "ii" probably comes from such words as "radii" (plural of "radius"). The reason "radii" has two "i"s is because "radi-us-" becomes "radi-i-".

    "In antiquity the word virus had not yet acquired, of course, its current scientific meaning; rather it denoted something like toxicity, venom, a poisonous, deleterious, or unpleasant agent or principle, or poison in the abstract or general sense. [...] Nouns denoting entities that are countable pluralize (book, books); nouns denoting noncountable entities do not (except under special circumstances) pluralize (air, mood, valor). The term virus in antiquity appears to have belonged to the latter category, hence the nonexistence of plural forms." (taken from here) Also, "viri" is Latin for "men", so that's not it either. The word is "viruses".

    I know i'm coming off like a jerk here, and normally i don't post just to criticise someone's spelling, but "virii" is a plague. It's because of mistakes like this that we have two words for "disc", and the bizarre spelling of "Thames" (i.e. people trying to make English correspond to its Latin/Greek roots). Anyway, i just thought i'd point that out. That word really bothers me (which i guess is somewhat sad).

    Sources:
    - http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/ v/virus.html
    - http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html

    PS: Otherwise an interesting post, heh.