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Computer Scientists Rally for Reliable Voting System

Kim Alexander writes "Silicon Valley computer scientists, led by Stanford professor David Dill are asking Santa Clara county to purchase a new computerized voting system only if it provides a voter verified paper trail. Their concerns are based on the lack of adequate testing of these voting systems, and the fact that the software is closed-source and proprietary. Requiring a voter-verified paper trail will mitigate many of these problems. Dill's 'Resolution on Electronic Voting' has been endorsed by prominent computer scientists from all over the country, including Ron Rivest. Counties all over California and the US are going through a similar process. Patriotic nerds who want to do something to help protect our fundamental right to vote with confidence that our votes will be counted can help by contacting their state and local reps, writing letters to supervisors and getting informed!"

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  1. Re:Closed-Source? by GnrcMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, I think a voting system with a voter-verified paper audit trail is probably actually better than having an open source voting system.

    Look at it this way, even if you can see the source code for the voting system, you cannot be assured that it is installed, configured, and working properly in an actual election. Further, most of the population would have no idea what to do if they had the source code. The source code is no substitute for votes being actually recorded to paper, verified by the voter, and dropped in the ballot box, and with actual paper votes, the source code becomes somewhat moot, since you can see what you are voting for.

  2. Re:Patriotic, Schmatriotic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This seems an appropriate time to remind everyone of this.

    http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/

    The wisdom in computerized voting systems is certainly debatable.
    Proprietary software, whose code cannot be publicly audited, and whose code cannot be independently tested, should never be allowed near voting booths (or sites)

    And a paper trail? Will we visit everyone who voted to check their voting stub? And won't that identify who I voted for specifically in a way that can be checked and directly tied to me, defeating the purpose of a voting booth?

    I hope the potential savings don't outshine the potential risks.

  3. A paper trail can be secure by stripmarkup · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Suppose N people decide to vote on an issue. For simplicity, let's assume that the vote is A or B. You pick a random number that only you know. In order to vote, you add your number and your vote to a list. At the end of the election, the paper trail is shown:

    1928787: A
    7483978: B
    1662656: B
    ...
    etc.

    Along with a tally of the votes. Every voter can verify that their number is followed by their vote. You don't know what the other random numbers correspond to, but if yours was 1928787 you know that your vote is there and was counted as 'A'.

    This is the basic idea. There's more to it of course, but it can be done.

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  4. Re:Trail? by zcat_NZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exit polls are like the canary in the coal mine.

    Your canary's just dropped dead, and you're telling me "well, you know canaries don't always live that long. Perhaps it was just old."

    Times like this I'm glad I live in a country that still has hand-counted paper ballots.

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  5. Re:Closed-Source? by istartedi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The electoral system isn't "antiquated". If the founders had intended the electoral college members to be nothing more than courriers, they could have easily done that. They didn't.

    Ironicly, the electoral system serves to make sure that people are counted. Without the electoral system, nobody would bother to campaign in New Hampshire. Is it unfair that voters in rural New England have such a disproportionate impact on the election? In a sense, yes. However, it's the price that we pay for not having a country dominated by New York and LA with everybody in the middle pissing and moaning about how the City Slickers run everything, and deciding to secede from the Union.

    The system failed once, resulting in a little fight you may remember from history... unless you were taught in a public school or something.

    What's really interesting is to look at an electoral map of the 2000 election. Do that, and you see that while the majority of the *people* voted for Gore, the vast majority of the *country* voted for Bush. So, in most parts of the country people are happy. It's just the City Slickers that are pissed, and they aren't allowed to buy guns so who cares? :)

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