Mac OS X Update 10.2.4 Resets

Oculus Habent writes "It may just be me, but 10.2.4 reset a number of settings on my computer, including icon sizes, window positions, and dock size and contents. Minor annoyances, but completely unnecessary. Is anyone else experiencing this?" As for me, Apple re-added some apps to my Dock and overwrote all my changes to httpd.conf (though it did back it up first) to add mod_rendezvous_apple. But those problems pale in comparison to some others: Anonymous Coward writes "If you upgraded your Mac desktop to 10.2.4 last weekend, check your date and time. Many users have suddenly found it to be 4:00 PM, December 31, 1969 again. Apparently, this happens whenever they are shut down or restarted, and resetting the motherboard and/or the PRAM doesn't fix it. Complaints have been piling up at Apple.com and prices for batteries have been skyrocketing - but relax. It's not your battery!"

Comments

No such panic for me...sky is still up

[djupedal]

I updated two computers.... G4 and an iBook. The only issue I had was needing to modify my httpd conf for on the G4 for PHP. No date issues....no moved icons..no lost internet...no droppy socks and the cat still has two different colored eyes.

I submit that as usual, the majority of issues are not directly related to 10.2.4. If you move apps where Apple's installer doesn't expect them to be (and don't whine how it is your computer and not Apple's), you'll have boinked links, and dock icon issues. If you've done a poor original install, you'll have issues with system updates, whether the bad install was your gift to the afternoon or not. Get over it...the sky hasn't fallen...this is not OS 9, and the sooner we all get used to a modern OS the happier we will be.

Re:No such panic for me...sky is still up

[elmegil]

Get over yourself.

It's not whining to point out that "it's my computer". If the goddamn OS *lets* me move things around, then it bloody well better recognize that I've done so, and honor those changes. If the updates have to have it a particular way to work correctly, then those should not be things that can be changed.

Yeah right.

[Daleks]

I know lots of people that use Mac OS X (me included) and they never experience any of these supposed catastrophic failures when updating their system. I smell a MS smear campaign.

Re:Yeah right.

[Oculus Habent]

I'm a big Mac fan, personally. None of my failures were catastrophic. I haven't shutdown since the upgrade, so I can't speak to the clock issue, but the Dock was quite unusual - it was OS-install fresh for me. Everything was in the proper places (sort-of reply to above posts about friggin with the OS) - I keep iCal, Safari, and Terminal in my Dock and they were all missing. Maybe I'm just lucky.

As I mentioned, the changes were more annoyances than failures. I've been quite happy with Macs throughout history, even with the IIsi's sound glitch, the PowerBook 190's power connector, the PB 1400's CD-ROM faces (Three of they have broken, two for me, one for a friend). The difference between my Macs and my PCs is my Macs have never had serious failures. I've lost drives, RAM, processors, motherboards, and modems on my PCs (RAM was cheap, though) and the worst I've done with my Macs is buying bad RAM and a broken LCD from shipping.

I've unintentionally stepped on all three PowerBooks I've owned (maybe I should be more careful) and none of them have broken for failed for it. I actually stepped out of bed on my Pismo - full weight on the closed computer - and it didn't even wake up.

If you want catastrophic software failures, how about the three times NT 4.0 has just stopped recognizing keyboards for me, or the two times Win 2K decided not to make it through boot anymore?

FWIW...

[gabe]

... I installed 10.2.4 on my G4 iMac when it was released and I've had zero problems with it.

I'm a little more fearful about it touching my powerbook G3 (pismo) though. I've frequently had problems with that machine and updates. I've had to completely backup/wipe/reinstall the damn thing at least 5 times due to problems with OSX. It seems that they give considerably less of a damn about older machines than the do about the cream of the crop.

I'll wait a while before installing it on my powerbook.

why does everyone jump all over upgrades?

[3-State Bit]

software update has asked me a few times if I want 10.2.4.
Uh, why? I have dozens of windows open, and uptime in the weeks. (This is an iBook -- are you on one? Open terminal and type 'uptime'.).

I read over the improvements, and there's nothing I need right now.

C'mon people. Get with BSD style.

I think it's just you.

[gerardrj]

I keep a sparse dock of one of my logins and nothing was added to the dock. Nothing was removed or added to my normal login which has about 20 items kept on the dock.
No new aliases were created on my desktop (Such as for mail, Internet or the like). None of my preferences were overwritten or contradicted.
My clock stayed at the correct time and date, and my network connection stayed configured manually just the was I had it set. (then again, perhaps my time WAS messed up and the auto-time-set feature reset it before I logged in, I just don't know).

That said, if there were going to be any inherent problems with the installer, I would likely be the one to find them. I'm running on and old Biege G3/333 that is overclocked (CPU and bus), with 3 monitors (one from internal, two from an ATI 7000/PCI), a USB/Firewire card, a SCSI card, third party everything in the system except the motherboard and power supply.
Seems to me that if anyone's system broke as a result of the update, that there was something REALLY flakey about the config beforehand, or it is just random coincidence and they are just assigning blame where there really is none.

10.2.4 Problems

[Anonymous Coward]

I think the problem pertains to dual macintosh- My 1 week old DP 867 is having a handful of problems after 2.4 fix. The computer is so new that I haven't installed much other than fink and stuff coming through apple's software updates. The problems are:

the clock resets to 1969. (I set it to network time, and now it keeps track of the time, but even in win98 you don't have to do that)

Sleep no longer works. it either shows garbled screen, or the monitor doesn't come up at all.

Changes resolution on boot up. my 20" dell has no need to be in 800*600 mode.

There is fix to this, that is to insert os x install disk and run disk utility, and it fixes everything. But after a few more bootups, it's all over there again. Now I can't really say that os x is superior to windows since it doesn't know what time it is without asking someone every time it boots up.