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Mixing the Unmixable

markthebrewer writes "From an article in the New Scientist: Conventional wisdom every 15 year-old knows says that you can't mix oil and water without some kind of surfactant. However a team lead by Richard Pashley from the Australian National University in Canberra have done it simply by first removing all dissolved gases from the water. Apart from the obvious potential improvements in salad dressings, it could have an impact on the manufacture of everything from drugs to paint - anywhere an emulsion is required. Apparently, it will also give some insight into the mysterious 'long-range hydrophobic effect' (or why oil droplets coalesce over surprisingly long distances)." Keep in mind the usual scientific caveat: this experiment doesn't seem to have been replicated by other experimenters yet.

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  1. Excuse me... by Some+Woman · · Score: 4, Funny

    But where are these 15-year olds who know what a surfactant is? :)

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    1. Re:Excuse me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      "i read the link i no what a surfactant is"

      i "no"?

      Geeze

    2. Re:Excuse me... by wwest4 · · Score: 3, Funny

      ha ha - you must be pretty old if you think 15 year-olds remember the smurfs.

    3. Re:Excuse me... by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Funny

      But where are these 15-year olds who know what a surfactant is? :)

      Every single one. What did you do to wash the vasoline off your hands?

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    4. Re:Excuse me... by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny
      "On an OT note...I ran out to pick up some rice and found Zebra brand basmati rice, which is:
      • ISO 9002 certified (How? Perhaps the company is compliant, but why is this on the bag?)
      • ANSI-RAB-QMS Accredited (Again, how does this apply to the rice?)
      • Exported by DATA CORPORATION of Pakistan (ah, ok, so the rice is a Data product..., I'm still confused..
      "

      Obviously you've intercepted a packet of bits from the Al-Queda internet! You'd better return it to the store and hope they don't notice that you took it!

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    5. Re:Excuse me... by TGK · · Score: 4, Funny

      no way dood lol thats the new im chat english :):):) i luv riting like this!!!!! i do this 4 all my schol papers n like get like a's n stuff. im so cool!!! u just wish u were as cool as me!!! :):):)

      I'm married to a teacher. I see papers like that go across her desk. She relishes giving them Zeros. -=I=- relish seeing them get Zeros. It's gut wrenching that we're creating a generation that prides itself on its stupidity.

      Before you go off on me, no I didn't spell check this. Spelling Nazis cease and desist. I know I'm a worthless clod who can't spell hippopotomu... hipopto... ah fuck it

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    6. Re:Excuse me... by cornjchob · · Score: 2, Funny

      What did you do to wash the vasoline off your hands?

      I didn't know magazine pages were surfactants!

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    7. Re:Excuse me... by snake_dad · · Score: 2, Funny
      (Actually, I'm 16, so I don't count.)

      So, at what age do you learn to count over there? :)

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    8. Re:Excuse me... by The_K4 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh yeah. ...ok, so it was A LONG time ago, and I don't remember my chemisry that well. I do remember it being very fun to ignite the Hydrogen :P

  2. Now I need ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 4, Funny
    to adjust my phrasing:

    It's like mixing oil and water, assuming that all of the dissolved gases haven't been removed from the water.

    Yeah, that rolls off the tongue.

  3. If they argue over the results, or the credit... by jo_ham · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..they'll have trouble pouring oil on troubled waters, it'll just mix in.

  4. Not replicated by other scientists? by macshune · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can we say Pons and Fleischmann salad dressings?

  5. how funny by choctawgh · · Score: 2, Funny

    Am I the only one that finds it funny that the first, most obvious benefit mentioned in the caption was food related? Salad dressing indeed ;)

  6. But how will I describe my bad relationships? by robb0995 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Yeah, we were like oil and water without a sulfacant!"

    1. Re:But how will I describe my bad relationships? by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Funny

      As pointed out in the article, your relationships would work if you removed all gas from your system before trying to mix sexes.

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  7. A better headline: by Randolpho · · Score: 3, Funny

    Scientists mix oil and water.

    In other news, record sub-zero temperatures in hell.

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  8. hydrophobic by sczimme · · Score: 3, Funny


    "He takes the air out and he doesn't get the long-range hydrophobic force. It doesn't nail the hydrophobic force down, but now we have something to work on," says James Quirk, a chemist at the University of Western Australia in Perth..."

    Hydrophobic, eh? So that's the reason they don't mix: the oil is afraid of the water. Neat.

    PS I wonder if the chemist's middle initial is T.

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    1. Re:hydrophobic by Banjonardo · · Score: 2, Funny
      (Obvious James T. Quirk joke)

      My....God!

      But...it... can't.. mix...! Must...have...green....women....

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  9. From the article... by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apparently they were able to pass both the oil and water through an new Irish web browser. The 4-fold increase in speed of all of the particles is what allowed the mixing.

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  10. Of course!!!!! by Picass0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    >> "...simply by first removing all dissolved gases from the water."

    Ahhh, Once you remove all of the Hydrogen and Oxygen I can see where there would no longer be a problem!!!

  11. Good Eats by esobofh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great, hopefully Alton Brown can make a super mayonnaise emulsion based on this theory - super tasty and smooth on the tongue, now that's Good Eats!

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  12. techno? by misterhaan · · Score: 2, Funny

    yeah after reading just the headline i thought this was about music . . .

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  13. What's Next?! by Kenshin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cats and dogs living togther?!

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    1. Re:What's Next?! by Bill+Currie · · Score: 2, Funny

      And after that, giant marshmellow sailors.

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  14. Re:I wonder by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Funny
    What the environmental impact of water based oils will be.

    Hmm, maybe any of the following:

    Exxon-Valdez bottled water

    No mo' GoJo

    Vegetable oils that penetrate the skin and enter the blood stream (Lube your Heart with new STP Salad Dressing!)

    McD's marinates fries in tallow juice. (Ecch)

    Uncannily something related to CowboyNeal

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  15. french dressing by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Funny
    French dressing

    The effect prevents oil's dispersion in water, and means that you can only make oil and water emulsions, such as French dressing for salads, by shaking them and adding stabilising agents. ?

    Second of all, the oil/water thing is more of an Italian dressing, I believe; and First of all, we don't call it french dressing any more, we call it Freedom Dressing.

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  16. Confusing title.... by hrieke · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whew!
    I thought it was about Bill Gates and RMS having a love child together.

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  17. Re:WTF is going on here? by ifreakshow · · Score: 4, Funny

    They discovered it 20 years ago but immediately covered up the knowledge because it could be used to make cars that get 200 miles to the gallon and don't produce greenhouse gasses.

  18. Energy Companies by ruvreve · · Score: 2, Funny
    An alternative might be to disperse the medicine in degassed water, which is already produced on a large scale by the oil industry.

    If the oil industry uses this on a large scale it would seem that accidents would have happened where the oil came into contact with this degassed water. Those damn energy companies have known all along.....OIL AND WATER DO MIX!

  19. Re:WTF is going on here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So go ahead and mix water with your gas, and let us know how it turns out.

  20. Deep in the lab ... by YetAnotherName · · Score: 3, Funny

    Scientist: I've done it. I've DONE IT! Two parts gin ... one part vermouth ... and an olive. They MIX! Mwuahahaha!

    Grad student: Uh, that's just a martini, and not a very dry one.

    Scientist: Blast! Well, bottom's up. We'll just change gin to "oil" and vermouth to "water" and publish anyway.

  21. As a biochemist... by chloroquine · · Score: 2, Funny
    Well, we've got a nice tank of helium here so we can degas the solutions we put into our chromatography setup. I'm tempted to actually try this out with some ddH2O and a little immersion oil.

    Do you think that NIH knows that it funds this kind of late night experiments?

    (I might have to make a few latex glove helium balloons too)