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Salon Asks for Help

Henry V .009 writes "Salon.com is appealing to the community for help. They haven't been able to pay the rent since December. To date, they've lost about $80 million dollars. A cause of rejoicing for some. But their many readers are understandably sorry to see them in such desperate straits. Personally I hope they stick around, I think they are one of the best sources of independant journalism on the web--even if I happen to agree with less than 10% of what they have to say. I also think that it would be a shame for them to close now that they've finally created an advertising scheme that has a snowball's chance in hell of working on the web. I can actually recall some of the adverts I've seen on Salon--what other web site can you say that about? Salon says that if they get another 50,000 subscriptions (they currently have 50,000) they'll break even for the year." In the old role-playing game "Paranoia", there was a nice quote about what would happen when the player characters (who had never been outside of their enclosed city complex) made an attempt to swim in water over their heads: "delaying drowning".

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  1. Drop Dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    They've lost $80million fucking dollars? The business DOESNT FUCKING WORK! There's your help you dozy fucks.

    Christ, the arrogance of these dot coms amazes me.

    Tata, goodnight, the shows over.

  2. Good riddence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Filthy granola gnashing hippy liberals...

    go back to humping trees

  3. Here's two ideas. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    1. Outsource IT department to India. This should reduce the payroll by 90%, conservatively.

    2. Use all OSS software. Just mention something about "sticking it to Gates", and Salon will have coders scrambling to write special code for free.

  4. Salon is Dying by grub · · Score: -1, Troll

    It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test. You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying. Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers. OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts. Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house. All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead. Fact: *BSD is dying

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  5. I already support the CBC... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    As a Canadian taxpayer, I am made to pay for this left wing Liberal crap machine. Shell out after tax dollars for Salon? hahahahahahaha!!

  6. Re:best wishes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    There is a reason why Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, and Bill O'Reilly succeed and crap left wing propaganda dies. The truth rules!

  7. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Just goes to show liberalism doesn't work and always fails miserably. Guess thats why europe has been on the decline since WW2 and is no longer a super power. Oh sorry now the EU is going to send me a nasty letter!

  8. $30/year is a bargain by mooredav · · Score: 0, Troll

    I don't have much to say, except that I'm a Salon Premium subscriber and I DEPEND on Salon. There is nothing else like it. No substitute.

    I'm sure there will be a lot of comments like: "this is just capitalism at work, survival of the fittest, etc."

    If Salon goes under, then it's an example of how capitalism can FAIL.

  9. Salon Asks for Help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    What's "independent" about this bunch of brie-and-chardonnay liberals? They spout the same line you can find in the rest of the ruling elite on nearly every conceivable issue. They're just another mouthpiece for the ruling liberal elite. Nobody'll miss 'em who cares about truth.

  10. NOT a troll! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The Parent is absolutely correct!
    Just because you can't handle reality, Mr. Moderator, does not make everything you don't like a troll! Grow up and face the real world, yes, you're gonna get your hands dirty, yes, you're gonna say "Fuck" at least once in your measly life, THAT'S Reality!!! Enjoy IT!!

  11. Re:How does a website spend $80mln? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    The fact that sites which avoided getting the priciest digs (I'm looking at you, Kuro5hin) have survived and maybe even thrived is a testament to the folly of Salon, Inside, Slate, and all the other online media startups.


    Why leave out Holland, MI? No...you're right, any websites based out of that tiny town would go nowhere...

  12. Its those damn market forces again .... by bizitch · · Score: 1, Troll

    Why is it that liberals and their ilk just dont understand simple market dynamics.

    The American people aren't as liberal as liberals want to believe.

    Therefore - rags like salon.com will fail - Rush Limbaugh and Fox News will contiune to profit and kick major ass.

    Wake up! - America is conservative.

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  13. Re:Location still matters, even with the Internet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Three words -- Walmart: Bumfuck, Arkansas.

    Salon doesn't even have a print edition, for Christ's sake. No physical objects are created, altered, shipped or transferred, and they're going broke with 50,000 subscribers!

    And please can it with the San Fransisco boosterism. SF people are worse than Texans and New Yorkers combined. The market has spoken about how wonderfully fecund and indispensible the Bay Area is, okay?

  14. Re:Salon Back Rent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I wish the Slashdot editors were replaced by a competent staff. As much as Slashdotters (and micheal) like to make fun of everything not Linux, the fact is the site sucks pretty badly. Even for a free site, I feel like my time has been wasted.

  15. Another Liberal Rag That Will Not Be Missed by quakeaddict · · Score: 0, Troll

    Perhaps they should go to the gov't with their hands out.

    Isn't it funny that nobody will pay to hear liberal garbage?

    Sure we have to get it through ABC/CBS/NBC, but that is, for all intensive purposes, free.

    Liberalism is dying a fairly rapid death. Nobody takes it seriously anymore when they look for solutions.

    Liberalism enslaves.

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  16. Re:best wishes by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Exactly. People don't like being lied to, and are slowly realizing that the Left is Anti-American and Anti-Freedom. Also, most people who read NR and listen to talk radio are the best and brightest (in Boston), unlike certain other groups who don't understand a logical argument or inconsistency.

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  17. If the CEO... by crumbs · · Score: 0, Troll

    ...gave up his $750,000/yr salary (50% higher than Bill Gates' salary) maybe they could make it. They need 25,000 subscribers alone just to pay his salary. And then there's the content they have to pay for.