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Using WiFi to Bridge the Digital Divide

andori writes "CNN is running a story about how WiFi is enabling low-income residents Internet access. The project is set at a public housing development in Boston, Massachusetts. Residents buy the WiFi NIC, and the access if free. It is nice to see people making an effort to expand the reach of the Internet to a broader audience."

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  1. FP! by Jennifer+Ever · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Will this do any more than free dialup access did?

    1. Re:FP! by Smallpond · · Score: 3, Insightful



      Its more convenient than dial-up for people who don't have a phone.

    2. Re:FP! by WallsRSolid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is a legitimate point, which is incredible for a first post.

      Anyhow, it seemed that free dialup failed because it was a) too slow, and b) had way too many ads. I suspect this will be more successful, as these aren't such a problem.

      Re: poor people not having computers. Often there are families who recognize that they should hop onto the technology bandwagon, for themselves or for the sake of their children. What prevents many of them from investing in technology is the monthly fee of a net connection, not so much the initial cost of the computer.

      Unfortunately, these poor people will probably pay the windows tax since they don't have the kind of computer experience and education to use linux, which would ironically be much more enabling to them.

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  2. Wow! by delta407 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    U.S. Department of Commerce data from 2001 indicated that 78.9 percent of people in families making $75,000 or more had Internet access, compared to 25 percent of people from households earning less than $15,000 a year.
    What a breakthrough! It seems that people below poverty level are more concerned with survival than Internet access -- who would have thought? ...how much did that study cost?
    1. Re:Wow! by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's one point on which you actually have to give Bill Gates credit - his charitable foundation focuses on much more important things (clean water, medicine, etc.) for the Third World than internet access and free computers.

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  3. Wireless Anarchy by blocsync · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Allowing free access like this seems to have the potential for chaos. Accountability for who is doing what over the connection would be a painful process at best. Hopefully they'll incorporate some type of authentication with a pre-registration required, even if it is free, just to create a sense (even if it ends up being false) of accountability.

  4. When I was down and out... by hackstraw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I carried my ass to a library for internet access.

    1. Re:When I was down and out... by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I look at it this way. Johnny noshoes wants to learn Oracle so he can move in the world. He's smart, but was dealt a lousy hand. He can:
      1. Take classes, although he can't afford those official classes and the local community college doesn't offer anything like this
      2. Buy a book at the local bookstore for full price ($$$).
      3. Buy the book online at a nice (20%) discount ($$)
      Johnny has just bettered himself[1] and saved a bit of money in the process. Isn't that what the internet is all about?

      If someone is poor because they are fiscally irresponsable, do you think the Internet is going to leave them worse off than they were before?

      [1] Technically he isn't a better person until he actually sits down and learns the skills, but that is beside the point.
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    2. Re:When I was down and out... by alkali · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I carried my ass to a library for internet access.

      Well, what's cheaper: maintaining a staffed piece of real estate containing a PC (i.e., a library), or just dropping an antenna on top of a housing project?

      Now that I think about it, providing welfare recipients with broadband access may well be the most cost-effective way of getting them the information they need most: where they can get a job, where they can get housing outside the public housing system, what's going on at their kids' schools, medical information, local news, etc., etc. (Some Harvard students set up a program to do online tutoring for Boston high school students; by all accounts, it seems to work pretty well.)

      If a welfare recipient had to have one "luxury" appliance, a broadband-equipped PC seems like a reasonable choice. It would be far more justified than any other similarly priced item I can think of.

      By contrast, the amount of money spent on Boston's public access cable programming is massive, and is entirely wasted.

    3. Re:When I was down and out... by alkali · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just out of curiosity I checked to see if the internet grocery delivery service in Boston takes food stamps. It doesn't, and it probably will never, but it wouldn't strike me as the worst thing in the world if it did. If I were a single mother with a couple of young children, I can easily imagine that I might do a better job buying cheaper, healthier food online than in peron at a grocery store.

  5. Not to be a grouch... by boomgopher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but I really doubt this will be very useful in improving many low-income families lives. I mean, sure, having Intenet access is fun and all, but I mostly see it being used for music-sharing, IM, and porn.

    There's always a few people who really take an affinity to tech, and will run with it, and maybe start a career, but they'd probably do it without WiFi.

    Anyways, my point is the money could probably be used better somewhere else, either in the USA or elsewhere in the world, like the countless refugee camps throughout Asia and Africa, where people have really fucked-up lives.

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  6. Nice to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that we are giving our underprivilaged free access to steal music and download porn. This won't greatly improve anyones life. The internet isn't some savior of the masses, a neccesity, or even a really useful tool. For people that do business on the internet it is useful, to everyone else it is just a pretty neat toy. These are low income housing dwellers that can't even afford a place to live without it being subsidized. I am not saying we shouldn't give them internet access for free, that is a nice gesture. But will it really affect their lives positively? Do we need to herald this as a great thing? We have just subjected a whole new batch of people to spam that were previously unaffected.

  7. Ah yes, the usual debate... sheesh. by Midnight+Ryder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, if the people in the public housing have a WiFi NIC (and, presumably, a computer), why are they in public housing?

    Ah yes... the usual debate. As in, why are they buying anything like this if they are poor?

    Think about it this way - if you have kids, you just opened up a whole new set of possibilities for them by purchasing a used PC (at the pawnshow, used computer store, etc - used hardware is CHEAP unless you want top of the line.) That and Internet access now allows them to at least try and keep up with the other kids nationwide that have access to the Internet. Heck, even if it's not used for direct learning (IE, they are playing games or downloading music, etc., instead of reading text books line ;-) the act of becoming familiar with the way things work will allow them not to fall behind nearly as much. You might not think about it much, since you are at least somewhat computer and Internet savy (Hey, you are posting on /. - that could say either good or bad things about you ;-)

    And as for adults using it... well, I personally use mine for more than just crusing porn and downloading music. In fact, I don't do much of either one o' those - instead, I use it as a learning tool of sorts (Got a C++ question? Google It. Got a medical question? Google it. Need to know what a phrase in a contract means? Google It.), and to run an online company (my game company). The latter wouldn't to apply to nearly as many people as the former - just about anything you want to know is there. And that's only ONE application of the Internet. It's a great enabler for people, and I think it's a wise investment on anyone's part to hook up - even if it means scraping together the cash for some really cheap hardware over the process of months.

    NOT getting Internet access, IMHO, is the mistake.

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  8. Re:The internet as an educational medium. by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If you think the internet is a piss poor medium for education, you lack imagination. There is a ton of useful information out there; encylopedic sites (whether commercial or peer-effort sites like wiki or e2) and learning sites, about.com, howstuffworks.com, etc etc. Not to mention, you can often find (with a little websearching savvy) sites about other countries, written by a resident of and hosted in those countries, which really brings home to you just how empowering the internet can be when it's not being blocked, filtered, and censored, ala China's.

    The internet is not a free ticket, it will not raise your children any more skillfully than television, but it is an amazing resource for information gathering. If you don't think so, I urge you to write a note or make a tally mark every time you think of something you'd like to find more information about and you could potentially find it on the 'net. The same will be true of children, who have just as many thoughts in their head as you and I, and often more.

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  9. Re:Not to be a grouch...Please! by octalgirl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    but I really doubt this will be very useful in improving many low-income families lives. I mean, sure, having Intenet access is fun and all, but I mostly see it being used for music-sharing, IM, and porn.

    What a pathetically closed-minded response. Maybe that's what you use it for, but there are so many, uncountable numbers, that need access for education and research, and they really don't have time for games like you obviously do.

    As someone who has worked in public schools for several years now, I can tell you, without a doubt, that it is the poorer kids who stay after school, or show up first thing in the morning, just so they can have access to a computer. The rich kids get to go home and hang out in their cushy bedrooms, waiting for Mom to yell 'Dinner's ready.'

    School gets out around 1:30/2:00 for most US secondary schools, but I maintain a policy that as long as kids are willing to stay and work, I will stay and keep the lab open. I am often there until 4:00 or 5:00 each and every day, and these kids are working their butts off, occasionally emailing friends, but they are certainly not wasting their time downloading music or surfing for porn. I find it quite heartbreaking that they have to stay after, day after day, just to type a paper, or finish a presentation, or work on their personal web project, when others have access willy-nilly and get to do what they please.

    And what about the elderly? I pity you when you age, because you will really have no clue. They now have access to health information and subscription plans. Are you aware how many low-income elderly (and most of them are) pay close to 1000 per month in prescription just to stay alive? Do you care? How about getting sick, being told you have prostrate cancer? They can now log on and share their fears with dozens of others. Retired military - groups and messages everywhere, a time to reminisce and swap stories.

    Don't ever belittle technology, especially here, and say it is just for music and porn, and most especially don't ever say that is all the poor will do with it.