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NYT on RFID Tags

indros13 writes "The NY Times is running a story on the radio tagging of merchandise. Companies like Gillette want to make sure their razors are in stock and stores like Wal-Mart want to make sure you can find your paisley panties, size 10. But what happens to privacy when everything you buy can be tracked from store floor to door?"

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  1. Privacy? by Maeryk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing happens to your privacy when tracked from floor to door, as long as it ends there.

    I dont know where you guys shop, but the 17 year old moron or the "hire the handicapped" person at the checkout at stuff-mart looks at every single thing I buy.

    You have _no_ right to "privacy" if you are patronizing someones store. Deal with it.

    (This isnt meant to be a flame.. it is meant to point out that they track everything you buy anyway, and almost guaranteed, if you use credit or debit cards, there is a file SOMEWHERE that lists everything you bought, if you dont, like me, get that list on your statement every month.)

    Now.. if the RFID tags follow you home.. thats another issue. But the show I saw on it. (Tech Tv? Might have been?) Did not seem to think that was possible.. they are a direct scan sort of thing, rather than a "scan from black helicopter" sort of thing.

    Maeryk

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  2. Re:is this really a privacy concern? by Dr.Enormous · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, the question is whether they'll be deactivated after you've paid for it. Because I'm not seeing a whole lot of incentive for retailers to bother to do that, and if people are walking around with these things on them, somebody will eventually decide to make use of it; it's only a matter of time.

  3. Protect your property by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Until the moment you buy it the things in a store belong to them. Period. They can do anything they want with it, including tracking.

    This is no different than putting a tracking device in your laptop or in your car. Or having a "Lost phone" beeper in your cordless.

    As a store owner though I certainly wouldn't want a supplier being able to track my inventory without my permission, or perhaps even knowing about it. It isn't any of *their* business, per se. I can see where the large chains would find this useful though.

    But in MY store, I put the tags on, if I bloody well feel like it.

    As a customer the tags had better come off as soon as I buy the merchandise. From that moment on it's mine, not theirs. Note that that would be *before* I get to the exit.

    KFG

  4. That's not really the problem. by FreeLinux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure, they can and perhaps, should track any and everything in their store. The problem is that RFIDs are not deactivated. They continue to work forever. Or, at least until the washer has worn out your panties.

    The fact that they continue to work for a very long time and the fact that they are, or can be, completely unique means that a store can identify YOU by your panties. National chains such as Walmart could track YOU and your panties all across the country. Suddenly they don't sound very nice, do they.

    Now, let's take the paranoia to a slightly higher level. Let's suppose that stores share their RFID and customer databases with trustworthy groups like, NSA CIA, FBI, SpamKing marketing. Suddenly You and your panties are trackable in every store you go to, or security checkpoint you pass through or toll booth you drive through. Now you can't go anywhere without the beadie little eye of some agency watching you at all times.

    Did you ever get the feeling that you were being watched?

    1. Re:That's not really the problem. by stinky+wizzleteats · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did you ever get the feeling that you were being watched?

      Usually in these arguments, I'm on the same side you are, but according to the article, the RFID is on the package, not the actual merchandise. This is different from embedding them in tires.

      This is a good thing on many fronts. First of all, it creates the possibility that I can buy something without having a cashier see what it is and a computer monitor display the description in bright screaming colors (or, worse yet, text to speech). Moreover, this has the chance to obviate the checkout procedure altogether. Who wouldn't consider that a giant step forward?

      There is also the problem of privacy motivated shoplifting, which is the reason why preparation H is the most shoplifted piece of merchandise in the country.