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Amazon Scores Another Patent

theodp writes "Chalk up yet another patent for Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, this time for a Method and system for conducting a discussion relating to an item."

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  1. Further Proof by CTD · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That business and government do not require Common Sense. Just greed and low standards.

    I'm going to patent Common Sense, but I probably won't get too much $$ out of it. Seems that there really isn't much need for it in recent times.

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  2. You all realize... by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that we're using a method for discussing an item (in this case the item is the patent) right now don't you? :-D

    Wow, maybe we can actually submit SlashDot as prior art!

    (And they said this wasn't art.)

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  3. Re:This is a joke right? by trezor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I dunno, but if this goes trough... I'll just patent "Drinking wine by removing the cork to allow the wine to pass trough the bottleneck".

    That should be a just as valid patent as I see it... Or maybe someone allready got that one pending? You never know, specially not when it comes to the USPO.

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  4. Re:This is a joke right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not trivial. If you read the patent (and understand it, and read all of it, not just the summary at the top), you'll see it's far from trivial.

    This is like the one-click misunderstanding. One-click is only obvious after you've seen it working. Before one-click existed, it took a significant effort to innovate it. That effort should (and thankfully has been) rewarded.

    If you don't think one-click is hard, consider this: the geek who was assigned to churn out the software after the creative guy had invented the concept came back with a first version that when you clicked "Buy" popped up a dialogue box saying "are you sure?" which you had to click "Yes" to. "One-click" nicely implemented with a "two-click" solution. So even the tech nerds writing the first version didn't understand it.

  5. I can see where Amazon is coming from... by defile · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rewind 8 or 9 years.

    No one bought anything over the internet. E-commerce didn't quite exist.

    Here comes some upstart that asks people to risk them the cash to make this new business model happen. They do something that most people would call innovative. A new business model is formed, the face of commerce completely changed. Today everyone sells over the internet.

    If you're this upstart who was there since day one doing what no one else did, taking the risks back then which aren't really risks today (relatively speaking), you'd be pretty mad. Especially when your big stupid competitor finally wakes up and realizes the internet exists and copies your site almost exactly, from look to semantics, and starts eating away at your bottom line.

    All of your hard work, creative energy, raising capital, the meetings, market analysis, research, etc. you put forth to make your crackpot idea a reality is now being blithely ripped off by your inferior. Through simple cloning your inferior is now your equal.

    If you've been in that position before, you know how infuriating it is. So what are your options? Sadly, very few.

    Amazon is getting patents because it seems like the only way to fight off their idiot copycat competitors. I think software patents are detestable, but I understand Amazon's reasoning.

    It's kind of a mixed bag. It sucks that Amazon does it, but it's not going to stop me from supporting them. Why? I'll put myself in their position.

    The position is one where my shareholders are screaming at me to protect their investment which they entrusted in me. A position where my customers are leaving to buy from my copycat because they can't tell the difference anymore no matter what we do. Where my employees who helped me build such a great service are worried that they might not have a job in 6 months. The choice is clear, I'd do the same thing.

    1. Re:I can see where Amazon is coming from... by josh+crawley · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ---Rewind 8 or 9 years.

      REwind a thousand years...

      ---No one bought anything over the internet. E-commerce didn't quite exist.

      Things were bough in the marketplace. Brick and mortar stores didnt exist.

      ---Here comes some upstart that asks people to risk them the cash to make this new business model happen. They do something that most people would call innovative. A new business model is formed, the face of commerce completely changed. Today everyone sells over the internet.

      Here comes this upstart that actually builds a building for commerce and sells pieces of it for sale for others. A whole new business model is formed: selling parts of your building for sheltered 24-7 markets.

      ---If you're this upstart who was there since day one doing what no one else did, taking the risks back then which aren't really risks today (relatively speaking), you'd be pretty mad. Especially when your big stupid competitor finally wakes up and realizes the internet exists and copies your site almost exactly, from look to semantics, and starts eating away at your bottom line.

      Same goes for then too. After a while, "ideas" are everybody's. You opened up them first, so you reap first. After such, you actually have to BE COMPETITIVE TO MAKE MONEY.

      ---All of your hard work, creative energy, raising capital, the meetings, market analysis, research, etc. you put forth to make your crackpot idea a reality is now being blithely ripped off by your inferior. Through simple cloning your inferior is now your equal.

      And that entitles you to make money? NO. YOu juat happened to be the first to capitalise off of it.

      ---If you've been in that position before, you know how infuriating it is. So what are your options? Sadly, very few.

      You sue for things you can win, not because "It's like mine".

      ---Amazon is getting patents because it seems like the only way to fight off their idiot copycat competitors. I think software patents are detestable, but I understand Amazon's reasoning.

      Competitors... Like Barnes&Noble, eBay, and other online sellers? It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out you can negotiate to sell stuff on the internet. Hell, I've been buying stuff off of Usent since '93. Same "barter", "Agree", "Trade Info". And banks will do escro also, for a price. And the same ratings have been enacted far longer than what eBay has done. It's called public opinion.

      ---It's kind of a mixed bag. It sucks that Amazon does it, but it's not going to stop me from supporting them. Why? I'll put myself in their position.

      I've already advocated instead of boycotting Amazon.com , boycott software Patents that the USPTO agrees to.

      ---The position is one where my shareholders are screaming at me to protect their investment which they entrusted in me. A position where my customers are leaving to buy from my copycat because they can't tell the difference anymore no matter what we do. Where my employees who helped me build such a great service are worried that they might not have a job in 6 months. The choice is clear, I'd do the same thing.

      Innovate or die. That's the heart of capitalism. Whoever stagnates is left in the dust.

  6. Oh, the absurdity of it all... by bheerssen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Amazon provides a simple service. That service is mail order over the internet.

    Their site is merely a medium to make that happen. Websites should not be patentable anymore than traditional paper (mail order) magazines. Amazon's business model relies on being the best in their business. Well, it should, but it seems Amazon doesn't want to compete on their merits. They just want to make it harder to others to compete with them by turning the business into a maze of patent law. There is nothing original about mail order and putting it on a web site does not constitute originality. Again, web sites should not be patentable. That's what copyright is for.

    BTW, today in 1991, Tim Berners Lee presented the world with the first web browser. That means today is arguably the birthday of the world wide web.

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  7. Re:Well now by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Insightful
    No, if you read a little, you'll see it only applies to an item for sale.

    I'm currently offering for sale:

    1997 Honda Accord Clean, 53000 m, V6, leather, sun roof, auto, air. One owner. $5500 obo.

    Anyone got comments/stories/advice about this car? Post 'em here, then cease and desist.