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Section-by-Section Analysis of PATRIOT II

SlappyCat writes "The ACLU has a Section-by-Section Analysis of Justice Department draft 'Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003', also known as 'PATRIOT Act II'. This is scary stuff if it gets passed."

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  1. Street Judges next by Yokaze · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Great idea... abolishing a lot of juidical process. This will make it much more easier to bring those terrorists to justice.

    Don't know why the western civilisation came up with such a cumbersome process in the last 4 centuries (with some regional and temporal exceptions)

    I like especially Section 501. Reminds me somehow of
    "All Animals are equal, but some Animals are more equal than others"
    Or in this case:
    All Americans are equal, but some Americans are less equal than others

    Greetings, Mr. McCarthy, um.. sorry, Mr. Ashcroft.

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    "Between strong and weak, between rich and poor [...], it is freedom which oppresses and the law which sets free"
  2. "Patriot" Act by Obfiscator · · Score: 1, Interesting
    That name scares me. The only reason to label this as a "Patriot" Act (the second in series...be sure to collect the whole set!) is to brand people who oppose it as "unpatriotic". Talk about scaring people into complience.

    In the end, I think this will run its course just like McCarthyism. A few people will get burned by it (hope I'm not one of them) and then people will start thinking clearly again. The only question is, what's next?

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    "Nothing shocks me. I'm a scientist." -Indiana Jones
  3. Write to Congress? by rwoodford · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I started writing to my congressmen...but I started to think 'What if this goes through. Will I then be labeled a terrorist and deported for my opposition to this bill?' Maybe I'm getting too paranoid...gotta stop reading /.

  4. Where's the actual text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Anyone know where can I download a copy of the Patriot II act, or is it secret?

  5. Re:Land of the free? by Frobnicator · · Score: 2, Interesting
    How did the parent get moded as insightful?
    we will have to come up with a new name, because democracy will definitely NOT fit!
    The US isn't a democracy, it's a democratic republic. Democratic = "benefitting the common pepole", republic = "A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them."
    like this makes me wonder why I stay in the US. ... every day I spend under the Bush administration.
    You enjoy many freedoms in the US. You are free to leave the country. You are free to attempt to get citizenship in another country. You are free to vote for anybody you see fit for government officers, including yourself.

    I often wish that people like you WOULD move out of the US, if for no other reason than to find out what like is like outside your little shell.

    Sincerely, another US citizen.

    Frob.

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    //TODO: Think of witty sig statement
  6. Re:Change of metaphors by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Secret arrests? Secret searches? Secret trials?

    The US governemnt is already doing some of these things. Back in October they deported a Canadian Citizen travelling from Tunisia, where he was vacationing, back home to Montreal.

    During his stop over in New York, they discovered he was born in Syria, so they arrested him, and put him on a plane to Syria (despite being a Canadian Citizen). Since the law in Syria requires men over 18 to perform military service (he left when he was still pre-teen), Syrian Police locked him up for not performing his duty. He's been there ever since.

    Nice, eh!

    I wonder what kind of backlash would happen if something similar happened to an American Citizen while travelling through Canada. Perhaps then the American people will awake.

    Is this a dream?

    No, dubiously, this is reality.

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    "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." Mark Twain