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New Computer Program Determines "Hitability"

illuminatedwax writes "It looks like the process of homogenizing the mediocrity of Top 40 radio is going to be aided by a computer, according to an article from the Music Industry News Network. Polyphonic HMI has developed a new program called Hit Song Science (HSS) and compares "underlying mathematical patterns" in current hit songs and compares them to a new song to determine if it will become a hit or not. Looks like we can expect even more of the same old junk being recycled for us on the radio, although the article claims that it 'will allow new sounds and styles to flourish.'"

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  1. No step 3 by jamienk · · Score: 2, Informative

    1) Make song exactly like current hit
    2) PROFIT!!!

  2. The science of the same by jvarsoke · · Score: 5, Informative

    An NPR article a few years ago reported how music companies decide which Country Music songs will be played on the radio. They cold call people and have them listen to 5 seconds of the song. This tortured person is then asked to rate the song 1-5. The music industry then takes all the songs that get 1s and 5s and discards them. It turns out that often when one group rates a song a 5 another will really hate the song and rate it a 1. So what the industry is really looking for is songs that score 3s.

    The reasoning behind all this is that if you hear a song that you'd rate a 1 (hate) you're likely to turn the radio dial. But if you hear a 3 you're not likely to have any particular response at all -- thus you'll stay tuned in for more comercials.

    Pop is probably done the exact same way. I guess that's why when you listen to "Classic hits of the [6-9]0s" you hear the same tripe over and again.

  3. Re:Let me get this straight..... by Poeir · · Score: 2, Informative

    This seems appropriate:
    "We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out."
    Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.

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  4. Re:There ARE formulas for "hits" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sometimes interesting things come out of Broadway. For example Broadway songster Jermone Kern did some interesting things with the chord progression used in his song Look for the Silver Lining from his Broadway show Sally.

  5. Not the song by Rutje · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not (only) the song that detemines the hit-factor. It's the looks of the 'artist' and the promotion...

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  6. Re:open source implementation of hit song detector by T-Ranger · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can do it now. Or you could at least.
    I dont remember the name of the company, but there was a streeming media .com that when you set up an account, you selected how much you like genres of music, and it shot down random songs at you. For each song played you could select how much you like it, to black list the [song|artist]. The system would thus learn what you like. Sory I dont have a url to prove that Im right :P
    But there are lots of online retailers who have "people who bought this also bought..." boxes on all there pages.

  7. Avril's not the most colorful crayon in the box by Wee · · Score: 2, Informative
    Actually, as far as I am aware, Avril writes her own songs. At least the lyrics, you may be talking about the "music" part - but I don't think her stuff is so much about the music as the lyrics.

    She's not, like, very smart.

    I would say that based on the interview above, she would have a hard time writing anything more complex than a small grocery list. At very least she's not a friend of the big words.

    I confess that I have only heard one of her songs, in passing, on Saturday Night live, so I can't speak to the body of work spanning her entire career. The one song I heard, however, was less than remarkable. I didn't even know who she was until everyone was going on about that virus named after her. And I'm out of her demographic; I'm almost exactly twice her age. Perhaps I'm just not as receptive to the message of teen angst as I once was.

    My hunch says she has very good handlers who are actively trying to use her to separate disaffected teens from their parents' money.

    -B

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  8. Stock Aitken & Waterman by MartinB · · Score: 4, Informative

    They weren't called The Hit Factory for nothing...

    OTOH, Pete Waterman is *still* churning out acts that are hits (and has been a judge on two major UK Popstars talent shows along with his old mate Simon Cowell). And still happily copying classical structures.

    And if you think this is a phenomenon of the last 2|5|10|20 years, bear in mind such formulae as the 12 bar blues and the 4 chord trick (I, VI, IV, V, repeat).

    But much of the gloss of pop music is (as suggested by parent post) in the arrangements, not the composition. Look at the number of covers in that compilation. Covers from the 50s, the 60s, the 70s. I would guess that much of the software we're talking about analyses arrangements and applies collaborative filtering based on what's selling at the moment.

    In the end though, it doesn't matter. Pop music is primarily entertainment, defined by commercial success. Don't mistake it for Art.

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