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CollegeLinux Released to the Public

YOU ARE SO FIRED! writes "It seems that the Swiss Robert Kennedy College (with the aptly named website) has released CollegeLinux, a Linux distribution based off of Slackware, to the public. If only my employees could've used this in school - I wouldn't have to fire them so much! See the interview with the dean of the school for more information."

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  1. Will it ever stop? by mschoolbus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux is great and all but I feel half the reason it isn't doing as well as it could is because there are just so many distros in general. I know the nature of Linux is about choice and open software but this hurts Linux in itself. Why don't hardware companies put out Linux drivers as much as they do Mac drivers? Because they expect certain things within the Mac OS, not everything is different from system to system, which makes it easier and more attractive to companies to write Linux code and drivers...

    1. Re:Will it ever stop? by Elbereth · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not sure you've actually used a Mac. There is an extremely limited amount of MacOS supported hardware. Let's compare:

      Video Cards that are supported under MacOS X:
      Nvidia GeForce4 MX, Ti
      ATI Rage, Rage Pro, Rage Pro Turbo
      ATI Radeon 7xxx, 8xxx, 9xxx (I'll be generous and give MacOS X the 9700, but I don't think ATI supports the 9700 under MacOS X yet)

      Video Cards that are supported under Linux:
      Nvidia Riva 128, TNT, TNT2
      Nvidia GeForce2, GeForce2 MX
      Nvidia GeForce3, GeForce3 Ti
      Nvidia GeForce4 MX, GeForce4 Ti
      ATI Mach64
      ATI Rage, Rage Pro, Rage Pro Turbo
      ATI Radeon 7xxx, 8xxx, 9xxx (some cards better supported than others)
      Matrox Millennium, Millennium 2, Mystique
      Matrix G100, G200, G400, G450, G550
      Matrix Parhelion
      Intel i810, i820, i845, i850G, etc
      All SiS video cards
      Most S3/Via video cards
      A few other oddball chipsets

      Let's try SCSI controllers.

      SCSI Controllers supported under MacOS X
      Atto U3D (Ultra 160)
      Adaptec PowerDomain Ultra160 series
      Adaptec PowerDomain Ultra Narrow series
      QLogic (?? not sure which ones)

      SCSI Controllers supported under Linux
      All Adaptec SCSI controllers
      All DPT SCSI controllers
      All AMI SCSI controllers
      All LSILogic/NEC SCSI controllers
      All QLogic SCSI controllers
      All Atto SCSI controllers
      Dozens of oddball SCSI controllers

      How about serial ATA controllers, sound cards, or combo Firewire/USB2.0 cards?

      Nah. I think I've basically proven my point.

      The only manufacturers who are dragging their feet on Linux support are ATI (uuggghhh... ATI sucks), Logitech (still no webcam drivers for Linux... I chucked my Logitech webcam a long time ago), AMD, and a few extremely minor companies who produce crappy USB/Firewire peripherals. Yes, MacOS does have much better support wrt USB/Firewire peripherals. I have trouble making my USB compact flash reader work with Linux. It's supported under XP and MacOS, though.

      Seriously, this is not a troll. I feel that it's silly to go around saying that MacOS X has more drivers than Linux. It's a ridiculous claim that is easily proven false.

      I own a Blue & White PowerMac (450 MHz G3) that's got an ATI video card and Adaptec SCSI controller. For a while, I had delusions of upgrading my PowerMac, like you can upgrade a PC. Not so. My choices are limited to an ATI Radeon 7000 PCI video card (no AGP slot on older PowerMacs) or an overpriced Adaptec Ultra160 SCSI controller. Good luck finding Atto or Qlogic SCSI controllers.

      After doing a lot of research, I discovered that my PCI slots are basically useless. I can't put in a sound card, TV card, GeForce4 MX video card (because you can't buy them... they are Apple OEM only!), DVD decoder card, or anything else that I put in my Linux PC.

      Macs are just not very upgradable. Once you buy a Mac, your upgrade options basically consist of an ATI video card or Adaptec SCSI controller. That's it. Once you buy both of them, you can add more hard drives. Whoop-de-doo.

      I should probably rewrite this post so that it doesn't read so much like flamebait or a troll, but I'm too lazy.

  2. 100MBIT MIRROR of college.ch by iosmart · · Score: 5, Informative
  3. Maybe many distros aren't the problem... by cubal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    but how they are perceived. For instance, there are a whoooole lot of distros based off other distros - based on RH, Slack, Debian etc.

    This is all well and good, but maybe we need some other terminology than "distro". A term which implied sort of half-fledged distro-ness [sic], for instance for a distro *based on* something, but focussed in a certain area, would be very useful.

    If this were the case, you would have your general distros (Redhat, Slack, Debian), and then, in sub-groups or similar, you would have Redhat-based College Distro, or Debian-based Medical Records distro or whatever....

  4. Absolutely wrong by gorjusborg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having so much effort wasted on many different distributions is stupid. Can you imagine what type of improvements could have been made to Linux in general with the programming time invested in maintaining many different distributions?

    You mean you would already have a free clone of YOUR favorite OS NOW if everyone would just team up and agree that your favorite GUI and OS's philosophy is the best?

    The problem is, there are people who actually work on projects, and those who criticize other's projects. The reason that there are so many projects is that people disagree on what the 'correct' way of doing things is. If you want a windows clone, use windows. Otherwise, choose the distribution that fits your computing style the best.

    Oh, and by the way, ctl-alt-+ and ctl-alt-- changes your resolutions in X on-the-fly, if you compile your quality sound driver and insert it into the kernel, you'll have reliable sound, and xfreee86 +xinerama works great for MULTI-monitor setups, not just dual-monitor setups.

    Furthermore, the developers that work on making different distributions have totally different skill sets than driver developers and applications developers. In other words, you can't assume that if these people weren't developing their distribution they would be fixing problems with sound, video, etc.. In fact, if they weren't developing their distribution, they would probably be posting nonsense on slashdot, and complaining about how all the current distributions are crap.

    Sorry if I come off as harsh, but I hate this type of thinking. Some people are so lazy, but expect the world of others. Parasites.

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