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Enterprise CTO Switches to Mac OS X

louismg writes "BlueArc CTO Geoff Barrall, using a PC day in and day out, found things becoming progressively more difficult as they increased in complexity. After one final straw, he sought out an alternative, and switched to Mac OS X -- in a corporate environment. His column, titled 'Rethink Before You Reinstall' documents the challenges facing Mac OS X in enterprise, and how he has changed his views." We've not had a switcher/MS-bashing/Apple rules/etc. article in a little while, so here you are.

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  1. I'd be more impressed... by podperson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...if he'd switched over his entire company or consultancy. It's not news that you can "fit in" to (and even "stand out" from) a corporate PC IT environment, I did it for years at Andersen Consulting (now Accenture).

    Indeed, when I worked at AC -- an actively Mac-hostile environment that in 1998 was forcing its DTP people to give up their Macs -- I found everything worked BETTER for Macs (we could access printers and file servers far more easily and reliably than could PC users). None of this is new or OSX related (there are new buzzwords to be compliant with is all).

    What really annoyed me then and continues to annoy me now is that people standardise on the wrong things: platforms instead of protocols. Indeed, often vendors instead of protocols. "You can buy any computer solution you want, as long as it's from Compaq." But, we can't use Macs because "that would lock us in to a single vendor".

  2. A "Certain OS" sucks by GusherJizmac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I like how he is careful not to mention specific products or brands when he is making negative remarks, but with positive comments, he clearly indicates the application or OS. Does anyone have the balls to stand up to Microsoft?

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  3. Re:MacOSX with all Microsoft Software ... 'differe by Otter · · Score: 5, Insightful
    And yet -- it solved his problem, didn't it? He has the applications he wants without the support issues that were making him crazy. Truth is, Microsoft makes some really nice products when they're not tied to that awful OS and when they follow Apple UI guidelines.

    _Your_ problem may be that he's using a Microsoft product, but that's not what _his_ problem was.

  4. Re:Free Alternative by Mononoke · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Is anyone else thinking that this guy could have had one of his IT people build a laptop/desktop with linux based stuff (free and open) for this? Without shelling out top dollar for an Apple laptop?
    I'm figuring he has better things to do with his time than download ISOs and configure a machine (which apparently has to be a laptop) and hope that he'll be able to do Powerpoint presentations with it.

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  5. Re:Stop the presses! by jaoswald · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, you miss the point!

    There is a person who uses a computer to make presentations to customers so that his business can make money.

    I've certainly never seen anything like this on Slashdot before!

    The consequences are potentially enormous. It might be that this person doesn't even know Perl!

  6. Re:Free Alternative by pressman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Powerpoint pure and simple. Linux has absolutely nothing that works with Powerpoint simply and effectively. At least on a Mac he can use a current version of Office, or if he's really adventurous, he could use Keynote.

    Also, by being on a Mac he has access to the most stable and feature rich graphics apps on the planet. (yes, I know all the same apps are available for Windows, but they tend to be flakier on that side of the fence.) Linux just doesn't cut the mustard yet when it comes to graphics.

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  7. Apple's "top down" revolution by tres · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's nice to see Apple winning the "top down" revolution. I can only hope, as a sysadmin, that Apple's OS X will continue to make inroads into the corporate sector. It is easy to administer, robust, stable--and best of all, works as advertised.

    I don't know how many times I've been burned by Windows products that just don't work right. I don't know how many times I've had to deal with stupid Windows problems and kludge together a solution. I'm tired of wasting my time with the same non-issues over and over again. I know I'm not the only one.

    Apple's mistake back in the 90's was to try winning a "bottom up" revolution. Giving their computers to school districts, in theory was a great idea; it produced people who were used to using Apple computers would go buy Apple, or use it at work. Apple made a simple product that worked well, but was stigmatized as a "toy."

    It wasn't Microsoft, but rather IBM won that battle by using a "top down" revolution. Appealing to the execs/technophiles in an organization. Making the PC seem more "professional," or technically advanced. Microsoft has been riding on that IBM wave ever since. But they've shot themselves in the foot more times than I can count.

    It's nice to see the tables turned: Microsoft's "Jolly Rancher" OS keeps trying to "dumb-down" bad engineering with more annoying wizards, more annoying popups, and more annoying "security" features that just make working with it impossible.

    While Microsoft attempts to win a "bottom up" revolution with candy-colors and glitz, Apple has made a real, rock solid OS that can be used by anyone. While Microsoft alienates more and more corporate customers, Apple is selling comparably priced corporate systems to their PC counterparts.

    More proof that Microsoft's greatest nemisis is Microsoft.

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  8. A shame an idiot wrote the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a systems admin who recently switched to Apple, I thought that this story might be worthy of forwarding to my boss. Unfortunately the article doesn't address anything of particular interest.

    For technical people, the reasons we use our computers go beyond simply writing Word documents or opening Excel spreadsheets. The average clod in a company though doesn't care what their hardware is, what their operating system is, they just want to know that Office is there.

    Therefore an article that simply talks about how Office works on a non-PC platform is nothing worth getting a boner over. If he'd spoken about Keynote, addresses the advantages of an open file format, spoken about how his company had developed software to write customized presentations based on info pulled live from their database or something - hooray. Perhaps he could have mentioned how easy it is to produce PDF versions of pretty much anything - which in this cross-platform era is a good thing since your document will look the same anywhere. I think my point is understood by this stage.

    Me thinks that this whole article is a way to get people to his company's website.

    1. Re:A shame an idiot wrote the article by dbrutus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem he was having was dll hell. The fix he instituted was using Mac OS X bundles which have all the code self-contained inside a double click to launch the app directory.

      Pair this article with a technical description of bundles and why they're nifty and you have a useful 1-2 punch.

  9. Contradiction... by ElGanzoLoco · · Score: 5, Funny

    [...]nothing that would lead anybody to think I'm using anything other than a regular PC. No blue screens [...]

    Isn't that a contradiction? :)

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  10. Use Office on XP then use it on OS X. by BoomerSooner · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your missing the point that it is a different product. They don't even really resemble each other. I recently switched to the Mac platform and to my surprise and dismay Office v.X is an excellent product. If they can ever get OpenOffice a Quartz GUI I'll switch. Till then it's Office v.X.

    The Mac Business Unit at MS is like a complete different company too, not the status quo.

    1. Re:Use Office on XP then use it on OS X. by SAN1701 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Meanwhile, in the deeps of Microsoft Mac Business Unit...

      -Hi. I just want to see what you guys are doing here.
      -Hi, Bill! We are doing many improvements in Office, Outlook...
      -Calm down! No need to hurry! You guys seem to work too much!
      -Indeed! Now we're porting SQL-Server to Mac OS X Server...
      -I see. But as I said, there's no rush. Drink less coffee, work less daily hours, enjoy life more... Buy a videogame to your employees!
      -Actually, we're very busy because we want to start to port the whole .NET...
      -That's it! 6 months of vacation to everybody. On me! You guys deserve it!

  11. Re:no sense by dbrutus · · Score: 5, Informative

    I think it much more likely that he meant he's reinstalled Windows in all its variations many times over the past years.

    There is a difference between running a complex program on Mac OS X and on Windows. Windows throws DLL files in various places along with registry entries. Apple has bundles which are double click to open the app inside directories. Apple bundles use .plist files (created in xml) instead of registry entries and the .plist files are in the bundle. What is also in the bundle is the executable code and the application strings for as many languages as you like.

    Most apps can just be dragged around between disks and continue to function just fine because all their components are moved with a single icon drag and their location stays the same relative to the base location of the bundle directory.

    All in all, it's an elegant solution and eliminates a lot of DLL hell.

  12. Re:MacOSX with all Microsoft Software ... 'differe by dbrutus · · Score: 4, Informative

    Pray tell, what Windows OS offers the equivalent to Mac OS X bundles?

  13. Trying to get noticed by Apple? by JimCricket · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is this guy trying to get Apple to notice him and include him in "CEO Switcher" ads?

    If you're going to use a Mac, why use all Microsoft software on it? Heck, I don't even use MS Office on my Windows box!

    And what's with the "blue screen" comments? Like most Slashdotters, I don't like Microsoft - but to suggest that Windows has problems with "blue screens" is, like, so 1999.

    One other observation: Apple uses the "blue screen" thing as part of their FUD on Windows. But isn't it funny how most of their users are still using Mac OS 9.x, which is far less stable than WinXP?

  14. Everything he can think of? by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He says: "Over the next week I threw everything at it I could think of", and then mentions Office and a VPN connection.

    Well, maybe I have more imagination, but here's three that I am having trouble with, right now, today:
    • Video conferencing software that will interop with what everyone else uses, since not everyone else uses a Mac, much as I'd like that to be;
    • wireless "cell" modem connectivity--there's stuff out there that has "unsupport", but if Verizon works with Macs, why don't they just say so?
    • Gigabit ethernet pci cards for older G4s. Lots of options as lokng as you like Asante--which I personally do, but my manager wants more price and performance choices, and I can only offer one solution.
    Now, I'm the biggest fan-boy of Macs that you'll find--but I sure wish they had better third party hardware, and software, support. This last week, as a new Mac IT guy in a mostly PC office, I have learned alot about why Macs only have a fraction of the market. To pay more, per machine, but to have it capable of less, is inexcusable--and will need to be fixed before Apple sees too many more CTOs like Geoff Barrall.

    (Although certainly, the more CTOs like Geoff, the more likely third-party support is going to happen. He is the guy talking to vendors, and they'll take his request for Mac support more seriously than they'll take mine. Hey, Geoff, how about asking Verzion to support Macs!)
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  15. XP is no silver bullet by Dragonfly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    XP is better than what came before, but just last week I had to spend an hour troubleshooting and finally reinstalling Outlook XP on my girlfriend's brand-new Vaio. After 6 weeks of working fine Outlook just refused to open, no matter how many times you "repaired" it. No software/hardware changes to the setup, just 6 weeks of turn it on in the AM, check email all day, and turn it off at night. If this is enough to break Outlook in a little over a month, then someone at Microsoft (still) isn't doing their job.

    For a point of comparison, my PowerBook G4 has been running OS X 10.1->10.2.4 since July '01 (across several network environments), and I haven't had to reinstall anything. Just 2 data points, but ones I find telling.

  16. Office for OS X == different by Dragonfly · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Office v.X uses a different codebase and is developed by a different team than Office for Windows. They share a common file format, basic interface aspects, and featureset, but they are very different beasts.

    For example, installation of Office X means dragging its application folder from the install CD to your hard drive. The first time you launch an office app, it installs the few support files it needs. If any of these support files get broken or lost, they will be automatically reinstalled the next time an office app is run.

    You do need to run an installer to install "extras" like Equation Editor, Clip Art, and extra Office Assistants (ooh! ooh! hurt me more!), but for most users installation is literally drag-and-drop.

  17. Not a bad switching article. by RalphBNumbers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One thing I really liked about this article was that, possibly for the first time out of the many switcher articles I recall, the writer doesn't confuse his ignorance of a platform's abilities with limitations of that platform's abilities.

    I was shocked that he actually bothered to learn how to set up NFS on a mac without spending at least a paragraph or two whining about how long it took him, or that he had to download some 3rd party software if he wanted to configure it with a GUI. Most 'switchers' probably wouldn't have even figured it out before they wrote their article, and instead would have complained "macs can't do NFS", propagating FUD, just because they don't know how.

    As for the rest, yes, it isn't really all that radical. For the most part he just uses the same Microsoft apps on a different platform. However if you look at it realistically, that's what alot of businesspeople have to do to get by.

    Sure, he could have tried Keynote and/or OpenOffice, perhaps some time in the future he will. Berating him for using basically the same software package he's allways used isn't very realistic.

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  18. Outlook? by WatertonMan · · Score: 3, Informative
    The one thing I don't understand is when he says he is using Outlook over a VPN. Is he speaking of the old Outlook Express that comes with OSX as part of the Classic mode? I suppose it works, but it is rather dated and doesn't use Aqua. Entourage is better but has its own set of problems - including so-so XP Outlook compatibility. (i.e. full compatibility with the version of Outlook that comes with OfficeXP)

    I'd also second that overall the article wasn't that informative. It also is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It is true that many switchers switch because of problems with Windows that isn't really Window's fault. (i.e. comparing Window98 with OSX and ignoring XP) By the same measure you can find on many forums people who have a bad Mac experience which isn't typical of the platform. No problem except when they then judge the whole platform in terms of one bad behaving application, bad memory, or a bad motherboard. It often seems most comparisons are emotional ones based upon one bad experience. Fair comparisons are all too rare.

    I should also add that, even as a OSX lover, there are crossplatform problems. I find the browser in OSX for browsing Windows shares rather weak. It misses many servers. Yes many of those problems are Microsoft's fault and not Apple's or Samba's. But they are there. Work arounds are needed. (And yes I know that some of those problems even appear in mixed Windows networks) Many programs, such as Illustrator, often have problem saving to Windows shares for reasons no one is quite sure of. Further compatibility between file formats isn't 100%. Exporting presentations from Keynote to Powerpoint doesn't always work, for instance, and often screws up PDFs and the like.

    It is much better now than it was in the past. However there is also a lot more work to do. Hopefully better Outlook compatibility is coming (either from Microsoft or Apple). Most people expect Apple to come out with an Office killer this year as well. We'll see.

  19. Re:Affordability by Steve+Cowan · · Score: 3, Funny
    I traditionally have hated Mac, but I would be willing to try one if the prices weren't so insanely high.
    To summarize: although you have not tried one, you traditionally have "hated Mac".

    Please do me a favour and don't get a Mac, because you might like it, and we Mac zealots rely on the fact that Mac-haters are weenies like you.

  20. Re:Affordability by Whatchamacallit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually that's been changing. Prices are dropping frequently across all Apple lines as the economy sags. They even released a single CPU PowerMac again to lower the price a bit. Most users would be happy with an iMac. The desktops are really intended for professionals who can afford it and also want to be able to upgrade it. You can't upgrade the video card or use a SCSI drive in an iMac.

    I actually bought a PowerMac G4 Dual 1Ghz MDD a few months ago. Why would I want to spend that much? I had bought a PowerBookG4 550Mhz a few more months before it. I fell in love with the platform and I wanted a highend desktop with DVD burner and dual 17" flat screens. It's been an absolute joy! Worth every damn penny too! Plenty fast enough. In fact, I would say it feels faster than any PC I've used and I've used the top of the line Pentium and even a Dual AMD. Speed to me is not how fast the CPU clock runs or how quick a Window draws it's pixels but how fast I get my work done. Reliability and satisfaction are much more important then if it's a couple seconds faster!

  21. Re:no sense by Smurf · · Score: 5, Informative
    Yes, that's a nice feature. Windows apps can do this too, if the're written properly. Office, for example, can be moved, as can most other applications. Instead of dragging the executable bundle, however, you drag the program directory.

    I'm sorry but this is not quite true. Your commentary struck me as odd, so I decided to test it myself (as I am tied to a Win 200 machine). I moved the "Microsoft Office" folder from the "C:\Program Files\" folder to another one in drive C. This is what happens every time I launch the programs directly from the "Microsoft Office\Office" folder:

    Excel: "An error occurred and this feature is not functioning properly. Would you like to repair this feature now?". If I say yes, it asks me for the Office installers. As I don't have the installers at hand, I am forced to cancel the "installation", after several error dialogs. Afterwards, (or if I say I don't want to "repair this feature"), things appear to work correctly (I haven't checked everything, though).

    PowerPoint: It launches without a problem, but the first time I use a menu command the installer dialog appears. I am also unable to open templates.

    Word: The dialog appears when launching, as with Excel.

    Access, Outlook: I don't use them so I don't really care.

    The shortcuts in the Start menu, the launch bar, and the desktop invoke the installer dialog and don't launch the application if the dialog is cancelled.

    We can argue that the programs anyway appear to be operative after dismissing all the dialogs, and that everything will probably be corrected by running the installer from the CD. But this is a far cry from what MacOS X (apparently) offers: they can (apparently) simply move their directory to a CD-R or a FireWire disk (or an iPod) and the first time the programs are run they heal themselves automatically.

    There is even a story of a kid pirating MS Office from a display Mac in a store by copying it to his iPod. Some tech reporter saw him, I think.

    PS: I returned the directory to its location and (thank God) everything returned to normal.

  22. Re:no sense by gig · · Score: 3, Informative

    > Windows DLL Hell is caused by STUPID installers that
    > overwrite system DLLS with older (or broken) versions.

    No no no. You're making excuses for Microsoft again. If you go and look at how this works on Mac OS X you will understand that you look foolish defending Microsoft on this. It is night and day how it is done right on the Mac and it is completely fucked on Windows. You can't excuse it in 2003.

    Listen, all you have to do to break a Windows app is move or rename it. That is outrageous to a Mac user. It's like if I told you not to move a picture file to another disk or it won't be viewable. I rename apps that have ridiculous names, like "Adobe® Photoshop® 7.0" I change to "Photoshop" and it works just fine. There are exceptions to the Panacea I'm describing, but the vast majority of the time, if an application is somewhere that the system can discover it (local storage, network storage, anything the user can access) then it will run. That's it. End of story 99% of the time.

  23. Re:no sense by gig · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's not that Mac applications heal themselves if moved. It's that they are self-contained inside one icon.

    Imagine if every time you saved a text document it had to be in Documents/Text Documents/ and if you moved it out of there the system wouldn't open it. That's what MS Windows applications looks like to Mac users. A Mac application is as self-contained as you would expect a JPEG image to be, so it doesn't break when it's moved.

    Breaking when moved is sort of a de facto copy-restriction method on MS Windows, so no wonder they haven't fixed it yet. Less control for the user, more for Microsoft.