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Australian Federal Police Raid Major ISPs

pflodo writes "The Australian (newspaper) has an article about Telstra the major Australian ISP and other 'declined to name' ISPs that have been raided by Australian Federal Police to 'seek the identity of particular subscribers' in relation to their activity and files stored on the ISP's servers. I imagine they will eventually raid some domestic homes and make a scapegoat of some unfortunate teenagers."

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  1. Re:Can somebody explain Australian law for me? by silne · · Score: 2, Informative

    They probably seized the servers in question for evidence. They'll be returned as soon as the forensic folks are done making a "tamperproof" copy. (Not the word I mean but it's nearly time to go home and I can't think.) Less disruptive to take the hardware and make a copy off-site and then return it than to try and make their equipment function on-site. Coupla days she'll be right mate.

  2. Re:Can somebody explain Australian law for me? by Wild+Wizard · · Score: 5, Informative

    they have gone through the court system the raid is when they turn up with the nice little court documents that says they can look at whatever they want

    big corporates get the same treatment that your local drug dealer gets its called equality i know thats a hard concept for some to grasp

  3. Re:Totally Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    No, it's the right country all right. Some major Echelon listening posts are located in Australia.

  4. Hell, we raided the library! by ihatewinXP · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the American Library Associations website: http://www.ala.org/alonline/news/2003/030224.html# santafe I was horrified to read that a man was hamdcuffed and brought in for perfectly harmless (but anti-Bush) chat in a library. Read the article and shiver. This story along with the Patriot Act II http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/02200 3Winslow/022003winslow.html has me very scared for my basic rights. These scenarios are coming home fast, it's good to watch Australia and Britan to see what's in store.

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  5. Re:Can somebody explain Australian law for me? by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wouldn't be the first time the AFP have overreacted.

    Just got done reading this. When it comes to computer "crime" they do seem to have the approach of trying to swat an ant with a sledgehammer.

    They're also a bunch of racist bastards if the book is to be believed.

  6. Re:Lately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    To broadly generalize, Australians have no constitutional rights in the sense that Americans do. OTOH, most of them think they do, and the government mostly respects that belief, to a greater extent than the American government does anyway. They are then terribly surprised when their government decides to (legally) trample all over those non-existant rights, unlike Americans who are less surprised when the government violates their constitutional rights.

    I hope this clears things up.

  7. Note by DiSKiLLeR · · Score: 3, Informative

    The AFP (Australian Federal Police) is the Australian Equivelant of the FBI.

    Also ASIO is the Australian Equivelant of the CIA.

    I always wanted to work for the AFP or ASIO. But its too hard to get in, and you don't get paid enough....

    D.

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    1. Re:Note by allrong · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope,

      The AFP may share some of the FBI's cross-state and international policing jurisdictional powers, but I think their scope is far smaller, partly because our police forces are state based rather than county/shire.

      ASIO is our domestic spying organisation, unlike the CIA which is supposedly international only and hence is more closely related to the FBI in that regard. (modelled on MI5)

      ASIS is our international spy organisation. (modelled on MI6)

      The Defence Signals Directorate (DSD) is the closest thing we have to the NSA.

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  8. Re:Copyrighted Material? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Can't remember my l/p, so just posting as an AC.

    As someone who just returned from an IP based workshop with half a dozen IP experts (lawyers included), it doesn't matter where the source of copyrighted material originates, according to the Berne convention, copyright is automatically granted to original works.

    Therefore just because it isn't commercially available in your area doesn't mean the copyright holder gives up their rights. You still must contact the holder directly to get permission to use/reproduce their work. Otherwise you are infringing upon their copyrights.

  9. Making examples out of people.. by SystematicPsycho · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sounds like they're about to make some examples out of people. Seriously, kids, you're not going to get out of this one with a note from your mum.

    Anyway, there is some footage of the raids taking place here metallicops

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  10. Re:Copyrighted Material? by BadDoggie · · Score: 1, Informative
    You're thinking of the Berne Convention [for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, as amended]. The Geneva Convention is the one that says the U.S. can't do what it's currently doing on Guantanamo.

    Both are scraps of paper that any country can pretty much choose to ignore at any time. The U.S. both enforces and ignores these treaties as it sees fit, depending on the mood.

  11. Re:Copyrighted Material? by mr_tenor · · Score: 5, Informative

    copyright.org.au

    http://www.copyright.org.au/PDF/InfoSheets/G070. pd f

    I was shocked to find out that ripping your "own" cds isn't permitted. Maybe there are some other wierd rules.

  12. Re:Copyrighted Material? by julesdoak · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's all illegal unfortunately. It's protected overseas so it's protected here.
    You can't legally get it. Morally, it's up to you. You aren't likely to get sued in Australia if no one has a local license for it, so you might be safe.
    2 things to remember about our sunburnt country - you have no privacy and there is no such thing as fair use here.

    Here is some more info on Australian Copyright
    Reciprocal agreements http://www.copyright.com.au/copying_overseas.htm
    Useful sites
    http://www.copyright.org.au
    http://www.copyright.com.au
    http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au
    AGD Copyright Law Branch
    AGD Copyright Law Review Committee

  13. Re:ISP premium privacy services... by flonker · · Score: 2, Informative

    It exists. http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,53799,00.ht ml Wired had an article about it a while ago, and so did Slashdot. Here's the download: http://www.hacktivismo.com/news/modules.php?name=C ontent&pa=showpage&pid=19

  14. Re:"Valuable" Music by ChristTrekker · · Score: 2, Informative

    This seems to be an appropriate follow-up to that. "Fighting drugs" is not the federal government's responsibility.