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Slashdot Subscribers Now See The Future

We're pleased to announce the newest reason for you to subscribe to Slashdot. Besides the ability to suppress banner ads, limit journal postings to friends, and a few plums, Subscribers now see stories posted on Slashdot from The Mysterious Future! These stories are recognizable by the red title bar, and the lack of a time stamp. Subscribers will be able to beat the rush and read the links before everyone else. You can hit the link below and I'll explain exactly what this means. If this appeals to you, you could read the subscriber FAQ or just go subscribe. First off, this feature doesn't change anything for non-subscribers. All Slashdot stories are put into the story queue before you see them. The time stamps on these stories vary tremendously. Sometimes the story is posted days in advance (like, say, a Book Review or an Ask Slashdot where time isn't critical and we post a set number a week) Other stories are "Breaking News" and are posted just seconds before they go live. But most stories are posted 20-30 minutes before they go live. This time window gives other authors a chance to take a look at them. To fix spelling, to check for dupes (HAH!) or even to reject the story outright!

So while subscribers won't see news posted at the last minute before everyone else, most of our stories will be available to them 10-20 minutes before everyone else. This means they can click through and beat the Slashdot Effect.

Another possible feature addition that we're discussing is to allow subscribers to post during this window. We haven't decided if that's a good idea or not. Since subscribers are still subject to all the same restrictions as anyone else in the forums, they could still be moderated into oblivion if they were jerks about it so it's probably not subject to all that much abuse, but this is still something we're only considering. Feel free to discuss it in this forum, or to contact me with opinions.

A couple of notes here:

  • Subscribers have a variable on their subscriptions preference page that tells us how many banner ads they wish to "Spend" per day. This number must be at least 10 for you to be eligible to see the Mysterious Future plum. This means that your $5 subscription will last 100 days- or, $15-20 a year.
  • You also need to hit the checkbox to disable ads on the Index. Once you hit your Max Pages for the day, you will see ads again, but you will also be eligible for the plum.
  • These notes will be clarified on both the subscriptions page and in the FAQ very soon. Your feedback will help us decide how best to explain this since it's not exactly black & white here. Give us a couple weeks and it should all be blazingly obvious from the documentation how everything works.

In closing, this is a new feature and we appreciate all your feedback, both good and bad. We decided to implement this after tons of feedback from you, and we're really excited about it. This is a really great incentive for users to subscribe, but it also can give subscribers a chance to alert us in advance if stories have mistakes in them. We'll likely be expanding this sort of functionality in the future.

Now please go subscribe and help support Slashdot!

Update To clarify the timing. Right now the mysterious future is set to 20 minutes. That number is not a promise tho, since a story posted 11 minutes before "Air time" would be seen slighter later. A story posted 30 minutes in advance will be visible 20 minutes early.

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  1. paying for what ??? by mirko · · Score: 5, Interesting
    1. So subscribers will pay to let you batch your weekly job ?
    2. they will only be able to warn you about dupes before the slashdot crowd

    ergo: they pay you to help you doing your job ?

    (just a question : not a flamebait)
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  2. Comments on Subscriptions by malachid69 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After reading the article, I was prepared to just close the link since I have no interest in paying to visit ANY site. Hell, at least I registered with /., I still won't do that for the NYTimes articles that keep getting posted -- I just ignore every single one.

    And pay to PARTIALLY disable banners? Very lame. I never see them anyways, since I have gotten so accustomed to ignoring them... It's amazing at how trained you can get at ignoring pretty much all graphics on all sites.

    But, to top it off, I read ALL of the comments to this article so far. Not a single good one -- doesn't that hint at something?

    Malachi

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  3. Maybe allow subscribers to moderate stories? by hackstraw · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've noticed that the shere volume of stories in the past few months has increased, yet the quality of them is kinda variable. ask slashdot hovers around unbearable, but is sometimes good.

    Why can't subscribers get a chance to mod stories during this "preview" time, and possibly even keep silly stories and dups from getting posted to the "real" slashdot.

  4. Re:/. effect? (Market opportunity) by kriegsman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's a great marketing opportunity for someone entrepeneurially-minded:

    1. Subscribe to the Mysterious Future via ./
    2. Contact Web site owners and warn them politely of impending future slashdotting
    3. Offer to sell them (short-term?) service on a Content Delivery Network
    4. ... Profit!

    Commercial sites would love this. Academic/government ones probably wouldn't care as much. You could sell them a contract with an existing CDN (Akamai, Mirror-Image, etc.) or build out your own special purpose service, just to handle slashdot-like effects.

    -Mark, founder of Clearway Technologies (now owned by Mirror-Image Internet)

  5. Re:/. effect? by cgenman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This might be a good thing (tm) for system administrators. Getting a sudden, solid surge of slashdot referrals might trigger a webserver to htmlify dynamic content and / or switch to a text-only site in anticipation of the real flood, which might shut down any such system.

    Of course, if you can't hang with the ping flood, you're screwed. But for those who aren't Dossed but merely hosed, this could be a great thing.

  6. Re:Is this going to be like K5? by CmdrTaco · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Users can always make suggestions to stories by emailing the author. We do hope that subscribers will be likely to alert us to typos and stuff. No story on Slashdot is really ever set in stone. But I would consider a story from the mysterious future to be totally plastic- I will be editing and updating stories during that window without spelling out changes or putting in little "Update" comments. We've always used the last few minutes before a story goes live to make updates and corrections. This won't change, but users will be able to alert us to issues before it goes public.

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  7. Re:Ummm... by Whatsthiswhatsthis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am red/green colorblind. This doesn't mean that I cannot distinguish red from green. I can tell that everything on Slashdot's main page is in a green motif. It's harder to distinguish when the colors are close together or very light/dark.

    This colorblindness test illustrates the problems I have recognizing the difference between these colors. In plate 2 I read the number "3" and in plate 3 I see "70." Try it for yourself.

    If people who are red/green colorblind could really not distinguish any difference between the two, traffic lights at night would be really confusing.

  8. Re:/. effect? (Market opportunity) by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 4, Interesting
    if slashdot themselves offered this service, wouldn't it be coercion?
    Yes, but the Supreme Court just ruled that coercion is legal.
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  9. Re:Disable ads on the Index? by bmetzler · · Score: 4, Interesting
    As for liking the ads, well I guess we'll address that in the future- its not a bad idea. ALthough, depending on your reading habits, you could enable ads on the Homepage, but see them on articles & comments, which would probably allow you to still see a few ads every day.

    I'd rather see all the ads, and just pay $20 a year. Perhaps you could offer 2 subscription methods. I just feel that if I turn of ads, I'll miss something someone wants to sell me that I like.

    -Brent
  10. Re:Allowing posting would be bad! by CmdrTaco · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I don't honestly remember. I believe what we did was graphed the number of dollars a person had paid us, against their M2 fairness score. The end result was a quite linear chart- the more you paid, the more "Fair" you were. Not totally surprising I guess.

    It clearly is not a coincidence, but doing anything with that information would have to be thought through very carefully- just because a user is statistically more likely to moderate fair, that doesn't mean that they aren't going to. Every now and then you see someone who uses all 5 mod points to mod up 1st posts. They get killed in M2, but it does happen. We have to keep that sort of thing in mind when we make any changes in moderation.

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  11. Re:Reasons for not subscribing. by CmdrTaco · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Fortunately, I can disagree with you about the definition of "Professional". Do you believe South Park should have higher animation quality? Slashdot was designed to be an informal place. Should I change that just because there is a subscription system? I think not. Slashdot is what it is, and I think that the informal tone is part of its appeal. Part of that means you actively see mistakes happen. You may not like it, but I think that its just part of Slashdot. I work very hard to keep Slashdot consistent with my original purpose for the site.

    As for a magazien or DVD, I'd love to see it happen. I just don't have the time and expertise and budget for it. If everyone clicks on banners and subscribes, then I bet such a thing would be quite possible.

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  12. Circumvention? by cybermace5 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, can subscribers grab the story URL, hop into the latest public thread, and anonymously post the URL for everyone's viewing?

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  13. Moderators by jbohumil · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It might be nice if moderators also got the advance reading. That might increase the chances that the moderators have had a chance to read the topic before they moderate. Plus, moderators would get a peek at what the advance viewing system would be like, and it might encourage them to subscribe.

  14. Other more interesting ideas... by StevenMaurer · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I doubt that as presently constituted, this is going to be counted a success. Certainly Slashdot will get some low percentage just from the good will they've built up, but this will likely wither over time as subscribers realize there isn't that much benefit.

    Nearly every change made to Slashdot over the last several years has made it harder to offer any real diferentiation in a premium service. People buy totalfark subscriptions to get more time to "win photoshop contests" - while slashdot has hidden it's equivalent karma system (and most regulars have topped out anyway). The delay from story acceptance to publication isn't all that long - it can't be: Slashdot is primarily a news site. The sophisticated readership could avoid ads if they really wanted to (I suspect most don't because it's part of the social contract). Finally, there are too many people who have run afoul of Malda's notoriously thin skin to have built up a "save salon" type of outpouring. (Setting special flags on people's accounts just because they dared mod up a critique? How juvenile -- but I digress).

    Still, there are a number of ideas that haven't been tried that might be of interest, if done right:

    Have a special premium queue for stories, plus the promise that one story will be picked a day. Suitable markings to differentiate stories drawn
    from "preferred" queues ala google.

    Allow premium users additional access to html. IMG tags anyone? Maybe combine this with small level of image storage.

    The ability to "challenge" a mod down. Automatic if the mod is "overrated" which doesn't get metamodded; better yet, get rid of "overrated" it's an invitation to abuse.

    The option of mirroring any content mentioned in slashdot (except ads) for any site owner who is a premium member. Most site owners love the attention slashdot brings them, it's just the slashdot effect that's so hard to deal with.

    The ability to be modded to a value of "6". (The post still has to earn that value from the mods on it's own merits though.)

    The ability to read from low karma to high. For fans of "alternative humor".

    The ability to start at a +1 karma level (editable, of course, for those so unamerican as to believe money != speech). This would be especially attractive to people with "high uid" accounts.

    A higher bandwidth channel to premium customers.

    A java plug-in that downloads slashdot incrementally in the background, making those annoying page-load/drill-down delays go away.

    Allowing edits of your own posted comment, so long as it hasn't been modded or responded to. If it has, you can still edit it, but a link is added to the original version.

    I think this is a good start on you offering enough differentiation to make a "premium" view worth money without cutting into your site's popularity.

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