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LA Times Examines Silicon Valley

Richard Finney writes "The Los Angeles Times has a special section on Silicon Valley. Most of the stories focus on the 'survivors struggling through the toughest stretch in tech industry history.' There's also a story on Five Reasons to Hope - New technologies that may help Silicon Valley rise again: Biotech, microsensors, nanotechnology, flexible electronics and data mining. We'll see."

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  1. peoples opions from the area by odyrithm · · Score: 5, Informative

    A mate of mine lives in San Jose, and as far as he's concerned the valley is dead, and will stay that way for a long time yet(3-5years), he's a very good coder and has everything from mcse to cisco certs.. yet he's still to find a job after the .com crash.. it would be very interesting to hear from other /.'ers that are from the area to comment on this..

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    1. Re:peoples opions from the area by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 5, Insightful
      OK, I will comment on this. I live in Sunnyvale and (knock on wood) have been continuously employed as a software engineer for the 7 years I've been out of school.

      "Very good coders" are not in short supply, and in the Bay Area, an MCSE or Cisco certification is as illustrative of potential value to a company as, say, a driver's license. Same goes for quantity of resume buzzwords, which only carry a premium when hype is king, which now unfortunately it is not.

      The start-ups doing best in this are lean (principals and architects only) and outsource a lot of work to places like Bulgaria and Bangalore.

      The people doing best in this area have breadth, depth, experience building services, experience shipping products, experience managing teams, communication ability, and of course (of course), connections.

      And those of us who meet the above criteria but don't have 6+ figures in the bank (from either prudent savings or a stint at a dot-com that actually went public), well, we are still pretty nervous.

      Housing prices are finally starting to come down to earth though, and knock on wood I'll be able to buy a 1600sq.ft. 3/2 house in a relatively nice neighborhood in Sunnyvale for less than $550K come summer.

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  2. Progress marches on... slowly by Gryftir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have to realize that the PC boom didn't segway immediately into the Internet boom. Nor was the period between the two a time of consolidation before change in focus. Indeed there was no directed change in focus at all, it was an organic market driven shifting toward e-tech.

    The difference between the period of time between the PC boom and the Internet boom, was that the hardware of the PC boom was a springboard for the Internet boom.

    I'd be hard pressed to come up with more then a handful of examples where new types of hardware was needed to drive the boom. Of course the increase in processor speeds, and other changes in the tech can't be dismissed out of hand, but these were incremental increases in technology, not true advances.

    But with the five items mentioned in the article, with the exception of datamining, require great strides in research before they become truely feasible as the focus of a new boom. Nanotech is still five to ten years away before it's first truely practical uses, as even the most ardent proponent will admit when pressed.

    These are hardware advances, and thus we face a slow march toward the next boom, waiting for advances in research and technology.

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  3. Cost of living is still too high by Biff+Stu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In spite of the downturn, the cost of living in Silicon Valley is still way too high. A typical mortgage on a modest three bedroom house (typical middle-class, nothing fancy, under $200K in Omaha) can easily run well over $3000/month in Mountain View. There is absolutely no affordable housing within reasonable commuting distance. The bottom line is that anybody who would consider re-locating to Silicon Valley for fewer than six figures is insane.

  4. we just went through a bubble.... by Malor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And the economic results of a bubble are devastation -- at least, they always have been. Japan went through a bubble in the late 80s. It started to pop in around 1990. 13 years later, they are still suffering; in fact, their stock market, the Nikkei, just hit a TWENTY-YEAR LOW and it's STILL going down. Bubbles create hangovers that are far worse than their preceding highs, and EVERYONE suffers from them, not just the people who benefited from the bubble. The last bubble we had was in the late 1920s, and its bursting resulted in the Great Depression.

    Folks, Silicon Valley will not return to what it was. In terms of real purchasing power, salaries will not return to what they were in your working lifetimes, and maybe never. Tech is already suffering from a true Depression, and the rest of the economy is most likely headed there too. We had the biggest bubble in the history of mankind, and if past experience is a guide, we will go through the biggest bust in history as well.

    The Fed has cut rates faster and farther than they ever have in their 90-year history. Money is flooding the system via easy credit and a bubble in mortgage finance. We are at 40-year lows in interest rates..... and STILL the economy is failing. States are in the worst fiscal crisis "since the Great Depression" (their words, not mine.) Layoffs are rampant, stores are closing, bankruptcies are steadily rising -- and that's BEFORE the spigot of much-too-easy credit is closed.

    The Great Depression left deep scars in this country, and a profound fear of credit and debt. Unemployment rates were around 30%. Healthy, strong men were living in cardboard shacks in great numbers. (which were called Hoovervilles, as people blamed Hoover for the Depression. This wasn't even remotely the case; the Depression was caused by the vast excess and waste of the 20s, not the little bit of nothing that Hoover did.)

    The bubble we had this time was far larger, and encompassed much more of the economy... in fact, it sucked the whole world in. Likely results of the ensuing bust left as an exercise for the reader. Hint: it's not going to be fun.

    A final suggestion: "buy and hold" is a good recipe for going broke in this environment. Wall Street has indocrinated everyone about 'buy and hold', but remember that they are trying to sell you something. These were the clowns giving you $500 price targets on Amazon. Do you REALLY trust them to manage your retirement savings?

    From 1930-1932, the Dow lost over 90% of its value. The Nikkei, from 1990 until now, has lost about 70%. This is not a good way to save for retirement.

  5. Re:War by Malor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    War worked because the economy was strong and we didn't know it.

    Huh? Let me explain: economies gain strength in recessions and in depressions, though a deep enough depression can do true and long-lasting damage. The reason they gain strength is because waste is eliminated. As companies struggle to survive, they become very efficient.

    The big problem is that it's hard to convince people to start spending money again after they've been saving so hard for so long. Our economy was extremely efficient by 1939, but we weren't spending money yet, so we didn't really realize it. Along came the war, and afterward, boom.... things took off like a rocket.

    But note that the value of the dollar dropped by about half during the war, and that about 40% of the total economic output of the WHOLE COUNTRY was devoted to war production. People who had saved a lot of dollars prior to 1939 probably weren't too happy about their savings, after.

    Right now the economy is terribly sick, from unrelenting dollar injection from Sir Prints-A-Lot (Greenspan), the bubble, and then desperate attempts by the Fed to prop up the bubble. This has caused huge distortions in the economy, moving wealth into 'sexy' projects like telecoms and dotcoms (where it was wasted and destroyed), and pulling it away from places where it was actually needed (like powerplants and oil exploration), to use two simple and obvious examples.

    If we get into a war now, it might have some temporary effect, but it would be more propping-up. It will just make the problem WORSE, not better. We might feel better for a year or two, but ultimately the liquidity injections caused by the borrowing for a war are just another form of the liquidity injections by Greenspan at every crisis point over the last 12-13 years. It would be more of the same stuff that's making us sick -- prescribing more booze for the alchoholic. The alchoholic may feel great for awhile, but he/she will be sicker than ever shortly.

    In any case, the effects of the Iraq war aren't likely to be profound, positive OR negative. Keep in mind that current expense projections are at about 0.1% of the GDP.... ie, pretty much a non-event. We might get a sense of euphoria if we beat them easily, and if we see ensuing cheap oil that WOULD be good for the economy -- but things are so badly damaged that cheap oil alone won't make that much of a difference, and euphoria can only last so long.

  6. Yes and No by LinuxGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple was founded by two people with remarkable talents, but they needed highly skilled people to help them fulfill their vision. Companies are built by people with a vision and drive to see that vision come to fruition. They must have a great team of people to help with the building.

    What the Valley and tech sector in general are missing is... wait for it... Vision! Microsoft has kicked real innovation in the nards. Microsoft is completely into innovating Microsofts stranglehold on the consumer and business computing environments. What innovations are coming in the near future? Maybe another niche product that runs on Windows you say? The problem here is that too many "tech" people now have windows-tunnel-vision. Their products are conformist with the Microsoft vision and increasingly drab. Very little that is new and exciting, which is what makes people want to spend their money and therefore create jobs for those tech people to work in.

    This is just a brief summary of what is currently wrong in the American tech sector, so pick away. It is by no means complete.

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