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Mozilla.org Launches Mozilla 1.3

theBrownfury writes "Mozilla 1.3 is out and about. New to this version are features like image auto sizing, bayesian junk-mail filtering, dynamic profile switching, about:config for a pretty view into all of Mozilla's "secret" settings, an initial version of Midas for rich text editing, and a lot of other fixes for performance, standards compliance and site compatability. Also with 1.3 Mozilla is now applying machine learning to improve the autocomplete feature. Mozilla 1.3 is now the official stable release from mozilla.org. Users of all previous versions should upgrade to 1.3 for the latest in features and stability. More info at the 1.3 release page and discussions at mozillaZine.org."

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  1. What about phoenix? by djtrippin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Thats fine is you want the bloat. (although the kitchen sink is pretty funny) But when is the phoenix browser project going to release .6?

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  2. Unicode in the titlebar! by Psx29 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Finally mozilla supports unicode in the titlebar properly and also the address bar! Not the most important feature but it certaintly made things ugly to look at when you look at sites in different character sets. (This is reffering to Windows rels. btw)

  3. *grrr* WTF?!? by sielwolf · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Mac OS and Windows: Using ATI video drivers will lead to random crashes on many sites. Mac OS ATI driver versions affected: All (?) Windows ATI driver versions affected: 5.13.1.6118 (Mac OS) Workaround: set your screen to 'Thousands of colors' rather than 'Millions'. (Windows) Possible Workaround: Revert to an older driver (6094?)-- Untested (Bug 101055)
    This is probably one of the worst bugs, has been around for several iterations of the app and there seems to be no headway! And considering it related to all ATI video cards it isn't like it's some uncommon HW combination. Frustrating since I love the rest of the Moz product...
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  4. Mozilla usage is rising! by The+Dev · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just check my weblog stats and non IE browsers accounted for 12% of hits so far today (out of 1.1million). About two months ago it was only 7%. Mozilla itself is at about 6.2%. Let's hope this trend continues.

  5. Image autosizing! by cmburns69 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    New to this version are features like image auto sizing...
    Am I the only person who does not like the image auto size feature? I am a web developer, and sometimes the graphics I look at are bigger than the window I'm browsing in, and I can't always expand the browser to be bigger than the image.

    If this feature has indeed been added to mozilla (and MS could learn this as well), please add an option to turn it off!

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  6. How *I* want completion to work by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The way I think completion should work is to match the shortest matching non-unique segment.
    If I type "www.moz" and I've been to "www.mozilla.com" (and various subdirectories) and "www.mozone.com" (and various subdirectories), it should show just those two matches, without the subdirectories. I should then be able to hit tab to choose one or the other, and then continue to type. Say I choose www.mozilla.com and type /info.
    Now, if the only pages matching this is "/info/win32/editor.html" "info/win32/browser.html" "/info/linux/browser.html" then I should get to choose between "/info/linux/" and "/info/win32/".

    This way I can type "sl" and see all the individual sites starting with sl, before looking through thousands of lines like
    "http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/13 /20282 09&mode=nested&tid=95&tid=185&tid=154"

    Also, if there are no matches, the window shouldn't come up at all. It's a pain to have to click repeatedly to get out of the URL entry if the url you are entering doesn't match anything. (at least on the Linux version)

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  7. And who said the browser war was over??? by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mozilla just keeps getting better and better... With all the features it has, it's well on it's way to becoming the super user's uber browser. I had to tweak one of the "secret features" a few weeks ago. (Port 1080 is denied unless you explicitly tell the browser that it's OK to access) The info I found, referred me to the about:config screen. When I saw it I was very impressed at how much potential there is for using this browser in so many different ways. The only thing they need on Linux now is the "Quick Start" or whatever they call it launcher program. That way you will only have to wait a fraction of a second for Mozilla to appear. I think this could be implemented by having another Mozilla componenet that you can run at X login. It doesn't actually display any output, it just loads the base elements of Mozilla needed to launch any Mozilla app. That would be EXTREMELY cool...

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  8. But why (redux)? by haeger · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm just whining here, but why does a new install have to remove all my gestures, autoscroll and other nice addons that I've collected? Every time I upgrade I have to hit Mozdev to get those again. Quite annoying.
    Yes, I know I can save some folders and do other weird stuff to make sure this doesn't happen, but by god, think of the newbies. (Ok, so the last part was a bit over the top, but still...)

    Oh, and with the new spam-filtering-rules Mozilla has now become my fav mailclient. Combined with IMAP it just rocks.

    Thank You to all developers. Perhaps I should go file that bug now. The annoying one.

    .haeger

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  9. and still no fix for horrible DNS caching bug by treat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unfortunately Mozilla still has a horrible usability flaw that the developers refuse to address. It caches DNS lookups forever, and does not honor the TTL on the record - there is no way to turn this off. This means that any site that uses changing DNS records with a short TTL for failover or load balancing will be broken for Mozilla users. IE works fine. This issue makes Mozilla look really pathetic in a corporate environment.

    Search bugzilla for "dns cache".

    1. Re:and still no fix for horrible DNS caching bug by Fastolfe · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hey, that's my bug!

      And IE doesn't handle this "fine" either as the earlier poster suggested. No browser does. They all invariably have a delay before the cached value is expired (5-15+ minutes or so), and this delay never seems to be based on DNS TTL values. :(

  10. Re:What about bloat by GreyPoopon · · Score: 4, Interesting
    IE is quicker, less bloaty and that is it.

    Since my computer started getting infected with all kinds of ActiveX exploits, I've switched to browsing the internet only with Mozilla. (I use IE for work stuff that requires ActiveX) Popup management alone would have been a good reason to switch. However, I haven't noticed it being any slower than IE lately. I _HAVE_ noticed that Windows tries to swap Mozilla out of memory the first chance it gets. It's almost uncanny. I'll have a bunch of applications running, and Mozilla is always the first one to get swapped out when I'm working on something else. Obviously, this rarely happens with IE (presumably because 9/10 of it is loaded when you boot Windows). Anybody have any idea why it seems to be so much worse with Mozilla? (Running Windows 2000).

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  11. Re:Automatic image resizing by steveha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been counting the days until I could have auto image resizing.

    I use a 1600x1024 desktop. I have a CSS file that gives me nice large fonts, but I can't do much with images. When I'm viewing web comics, much of the time the text in the speech bubbles is so tiny I have to lean way forwards to read it. I read web comics every day, so I'll be using this feature every day.

    P.S. If there were an option to simply scale everything by a factor of 2, I'd turn that on by default. Any web page designed for 800x600 would fit great on my screen. (Okay, it would be a little bit tight vertically, but horizontal is more important.)

    steveha

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  12. Re:The best tool. by sfe_software · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Oh, please. That's just one big stupid OSS flag-waver. IE versions since 4 have been plenty stable and, yes, I do administer LANs of up to 80 machines, all running MSIE 5.5 and 6 reliably. For me and other "die-hard Windows users," Mozilla hangs and crashes. IE doesn't. Does that mean that Mozilla sucks?

    Hm. First, I will say this: IE is stable, sure. But does IE do what the user wants to be done?

    How many users can raise their hands and indicate that it's okay for web pages to pop up additional browser windows to display advertisements. Perhaps even maximize some of them.

    How many users would say it's okay to "stretch" the standards -- standards that the rest of the Internet is based upon -- implementing them in MSIE so that pages end up being IE-only?

    I will give you this: MSIE is stable on Windows 2000 and XP in my experience. Mozilla is stable on Windows *lt;any version>, Linux, *BSD, Mac, and so on. Mozilla lets you decide if you want sites to spawn new browser processes on your machine. Mozilla complies with established standards -- standards that extend far beyond the Wintel world.

    If you use linux because it works for you, that's just great, but don't go making blanket statements that are dead wrong. Wishing doesn't make it so. If IE 'sucked,' it would be obsoleted by popular opinion. It doesn't and it isn't.

    Honestly, this has nothing to do with reliability, or Linux. It has to do with a browser doing things according to *your* preferences, *your* best interests, as opposed to those of the company distributing the browser (or their partners).

    And, WRT your familiar commentary about the magic of having "the source," how much does that mean to the 99.6% of the world who can't code? I certainly can't code beyond scripts, so I don't care and I'm not about to hire someone to do it for me. If it's broken, I find something that ain't, just like everyone else.

    It's not about being able to modify or review the source, it's about the methodology that is open source. The fact that hundreds, possibly thousands in this case, of competant programmers are reviewing each-other's source code. All coming from different environments, different backgrounds, different training -- and all spotting different potential problem areas. Bringing in different new ideas.

    This, as opposed to a company who may say something like "Okay, you've found a potentially serious security flaw. Here's what we're going to do: pretend it's not there, we'll fix it in the next major release, and hope no "hacker" finds it on his or her own."

    Don't tell me this doesn't happen on a daily basis over in Redmond (and in other closed-source projects).

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  13. Re:And they still doen't support IE's DHTML model by bunratty · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Where did you get the 95% figure? It's hard for me to find any sites that don't work in Mozilla, and I go to plenty of sites that use JavaScript and DHTML. When I do find a site that doesn't work in Mozilla, it's nearly always very poorly designed and it's just an accident that it happens to work in any browser.

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  14. Re:What about bloat by irritating+environme · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I completely agree about the contention that Mozilla is swapped out a soon as possible. Leave it for a few minutes, and you click on it and a swap storm ensues, despite the fact that a hundred megs of memory is free.

    It wouldn't be hard to do, given that they give the option to register as the default browser, and browser apps may require other unknown OS resources that MS could use to ID foreign browsers.

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