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SuSE 8.2 Announced
Venotar writes "It looks like SuSE's once more setting the bar pretty high. According to their recent announcement, SuSE 8.2's release date is set for April 12th. Amongst other nifty features, KDE 3.1 apparently includes tabbed browsing, the ability to sync with Exchange servers, a new administration tool called "Desktop sharing" that allows remote control of other desktops, and several interesting new crypto/security features. Gnome 2.2 is also included, as well as a profile manager for mobile users, and gcc 3.3. Have a lot of fun!"
KDE 3.1 apparently includes tabbed browsing, the ability to sync with Exchange servers, a new administration tool called "Desktop sharing"..
Oh, you mean just like every other distro that has kde 3.1?
When it comes to package managers, SuSE also has much better network updates and doesn't require a paid subscription like Red Hat.
But for how long, I wonder.
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
You left Mandrake off of this list because of what? Maybe your lack of experience with Mandrake products... or maybe your simply biased. I use RedHat for my servers and Mandrake for my desktop units. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses. Mandrake is slowly becoming better and better for servers and RedHat has never been very good for desktops, and is continually making things worse... at least if your a KDE fan/user (I use KDE exclusively).
SuSE plays mp3s out of the box.
What distro doesn't play mp3's out of the box? Oh wait, I know this one... RedHat... right. Forgot about them not bothering to ship the proper software for mp3 decoding in 8.0. At least that is what I read was the problem. I haven't tried playing mp3's with RH 8.0 so I can't say for sure. See, I've been too busy enjoying my Mandrake desktop with KDE 3.1 and the new version of Mozilla (which freakin rocks btw)
Anyway, my point is that before you make a statement about the playing field being narrowed down to only 2 of the many distros, why don't you do some research and see just how many users the other distros have. I would wager that Mandrake has a considerable user base. Everyone I know uses it for desktops (and almost everyone I know uses RH for servers... with a few FreeBSD installs for good measure).
How is it that one careless match can start a forest fire, but it takes a whole box to start a campfire?
AND YOU, MY FRIEND ARE CLEARLY MAD!
Be rational for a minute. SuSE is a small German Linux company which is not yet profitable and has its headquarters in Germany as well as offices in the US. They do not have any power to decide if Germany supports the US in the inevitable war with Iraq, for all you know they might support it. It is greately unfair to boycott a comapny, ebcause it happens to be in an unfortunate political situation when teh company has no influence to change this situation.
Furthermore, you can install SuSE as many times as you want on as many machines as you want, but you only have support for one machine. Supproting SuSE, is supproting the many projects SUSe sponsors and contributes to as wella s Linuc, it is not supporting what you call the "enemy".
Germany is not US's enemy, they just oppose a war without serious proof, not just estimates and guesses decades old. Germany also sees that this war is nto about freedom, or the terrible ways in which Sadam abuses his power, it is about Oil and more oil. USA has supported dictators before and has even contributed to a large part of Sadam's army, and we were good allies before. WE knew he was doing this and why did we not act and what about all the other dictators. Come on, don't believe the cover up.
Hitler was in power a long time ago and besides that if you didn't know, the Bush family supproted the Naziz and donated a large amount of money to them.
Also Germany, has no ties to the attacks on 9/11 or terrorism. Where did you come out with so much shit. No wonder other antions don't like us. Judging by your post, I would definetely dislike America if many people thought like that.
I suggest people use what suits them best not what is more "patriotic". What the original poster said is crazy talk.
please take your medication
You present it as if you SuSe is a victim of Redhat users here. The fact is that Redhat holds the "Most Hated Distro Award" among Slashdotters, and if there was ever a distro that was 'slagged', it was Redhat. You're presenting the post as a preemptive defense of SuSe from Redhat users is bullshit, because I never see these types of posts. You just want to rag on Redhat and tell everyone how you think SuSe is better, so you should just come out and say so.
You claim that Redhat feels less complete, yet you give no real examples. I agree that Redhat was silly to not include the shutdown button in KDE and I'd love to know why they removed it, but you are acting as if it is some killer feature or something.. In fact, that is the most discussed item in your post, and you even speak of how your sales people were in awe as they watched you click on it (do you realize how silly that sounds?) and I wonder if you have anything better to mention besides the lack of a silly shutdown option from the K menu. I mean, I'm picturing some guys in suits, jaws dropped, watching in lust as you expose this unbelievable "Log Out" option in the K menu..
Just come out with the the real point you want to make, which is the same one many other Redhat slaggers make: Redhat sucks because they did such and such to [insert KDE component here], my personal preference is [insert distro here].
I'm getting really sick of the distro war bullshit. Use what you like, let other people use what they like. If your distro of choice is truly a good choice for someone, they will eventually try it and use it on their own. Quit beating dead horses.
The best thing that could happen for all Linux distributions is for Microsoft to finally crack the activation process, so that you have no way of installing Windows without a license and a properly activated copy
The thing is, anyone with any technical skills and access to the internet can get hold of a copy of Windows XP and install it for nothing. Same goes for office. Witness the activation cracks, Devils-Own releases, and so on. Bottom line, Windows XP/Office XP is effectively free, and it's a better desktop/gaming/multimedia experience than any Linux distro. The day that you can no longer install Windows for free is the day the average slashdot person finally puts all of his/her effort into Linux.
Microsoft know this, and that's why they still make it possible for the average techy to install and run Windows XP/Office XP at no cost, therefore negating the major benefit of Linux. They prefer people to pirate Windows and Office because it stops them making an effort with Linux.
This really pisses me off.
This is a typical example of take it for free, give nothing back.
SuSE have put a lot of work into their distros and deserve to be paid for them.
Once you buy it, you can update it for free.
Why should they give away all their hardwork for free.
Yeah yeah, debian do it, but they aren't paying people and don't have bills to cover.
Stop whinging about getting it for free.
SuSE costs money and if you don't like it don't buy it.
I usually *purchase* one version in each major series of SuSE, not because I need to, but because I think
a) it is worth it
b) to support the company
On the distro wars, f*ck it use which ever bl00dy distro you want and stop bitching about others.
Free choice doesn't mean you have to slag off the competion.
I think SuSE rocks and is the best distro by a long way for professional users.... if you want to use redhat or pinkcoat that's your choice....
Alanp
Im not sure where so many people have got the idea that SuSE is not free any more. SuSE, like all linux, is and always will be free.
Perhaps part of the confusion stems from the commercial (ie paid for by SuSE) software that is bundled with SuSE when you purchase a distro but is not available to download for free. I buy the professional distro EVERY minor version release, not because I need to but because I want to support SuSE. In yast, the SuSE set up tool, you may set the installation medium to be the SuSE ftp site and update all you want. You can install from scratch like this as well and even update your core system (although this will require you to burn a FREE to download cd also)
Just because a company lets you buy their linux distro in a shiny box with a bunch of lovely manuals, some cool stickers (which im glad to say are back in 8.1 after 8.0s notable absence) and literally tens of thousands of software packages, many of which you would otherwise have to PAY FOR, I really dont see why anyone complains.
ISOs are available for non i386 SuSE distros, but as has already been pointed out, downloading nearly 6 gigs when you are not even going to install it all seems a tad wasteful on the old bandwidth. Bandwidth which I might add SuSE have to pay for somewhere along the line. If you can afford the time online to download 7 CDs then you will have no problem installing the system you want over ftp.
SuSE Linux can be downloaded for FREE from: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/