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Free Software Operating Systems for Old Laptops?

X-Nc asks: "I have an old 486 Laptop that does not have a CD drive and , if I remember right, a very small hard disk (a few megs), and maybe 4 megs of RAM. I would like to let my 6 year old son use this for him to play and learn on. What I'd -really- like to do is install Linux or one of the BSD's on it with enough apps to run a simple editor and a few other things. I have other systems that are able to run learning software and games. This would be for him to learn computer fundimentals. I remember in the old days that you could run X11 on this kind of system (my first Linux box was a 386DX-30 with 2meg RAM and a 20 meg HD). I have been digging around in some of the lists of distros to try and find something to load on the system but I can't seem to find one that's right. So, does anyone know of a Free Software (or even commercial) OS that can be installed on such a system that can do more than be just a terminal?"

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  1. Peanut Linux? by knightwolf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Have you looked at peanut linux or maybe slackware? They're usually really small distros. Another option is to search freshmeat. Just a quick search for linux floppy brought up several results for distros that run on one or two floppies. The only trick is the more current versions of X often require a fair amount of space. You might also have to use a really old kernel (i.e. 2.2 series).

  2. Lessee... by Otter · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I'm not entirely sure I understand -- your concern is that you can't find a current distribution that will readily run on this hardware, right?

    How about using an old Linux distro, something from the Red Hat 5.x era? There are a ton of security holes, but given the environment in which this is going to be used (a single 6 year old user, no important data, no networking) who cares if wu-ftpd is vulnerable?

    Run WindowMaker or AfterStep or even that fvwm95 monstrosity Red Hat used to ship and it will be fine.

    I've never seen it, but QNX might be an alternative. Does BeOS support pre-Pentium systems?

  3. Try ZipSlack by gordie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Slackware http://www.slackware.com has a very small distro called zipslack. Should serve your purpose (I've used it myself on a very old 386 based laptop).

    From the web site: "ZipSlack is a special edition of Slackware Linux that can be installed onto any FAT (or FAT32) filesystem with about 100 MB of free space. It uses the UMSDOS filesystem and contains most of the programs you will need. This means that you do not need to repartition your hard disk if you already have DOS or Windows installed. ZipSlack installs into a directory on your DOS filesystem. It can also be installed to and booted from a Zip disk.

    This distribution is ideal for people who don't have a lot of hard disk space, do not have a fast Internet connection to download the entire distribution, or who want a Linux distribution they can carry around on a Zip disk."

  4. BasicLinux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Have a look at BasicLinux 1.8
    http://www.volny.cz/basiclinux

    There is a version for 4mb RAM.
    It uses a 2.0 kernel and libc5.

    5mb BasicLinux HD foundation
    12mb X (with icewm)
    1mb xfreecell
    15mb C compiler

    33mb TOTAL

  5. Use it as an X Terminal by darnok · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know your original message said something about using an OS "other than a terminal", but you might consider bringing it up as an XTerm. From the wording of your question, I'm guessing that you've got a more modern Linux box somewhere that you yourself use, so why not install your kid's apps on that and let him run riot accessing it via an XTerm?

    Advantages:
    - given that you'll probably be installing Linux and X on the old laptop anyway, it should be easier to install just enough to have it run as an Xterm, rather than having to install several games, drawing programs, etc. into limited space
    - you'll probably get more life out of it, given that there's very little that's going to have to change on it once it's up and going properly
    - you can send him cute messages from your other PC (don't underestimate how exciting kids find this!)
    - very little software on his PC means very little to go wrong
    - if/when he breaks or outgrows it, you can quickly get another clunker PC and bring it up as another XTerm

    Disadvantages:
    - you'll need a network card, which you may or may not have in this laptop. It should be pretty cheap to track down an old Xircom or something similar

    FWIW, my two boys (6 and 4) have been playing games and surfing Web sites on one of my Linux PCs for years - basically, they started "helping" me work before they could walk. There's lots of games and drawing programs out there if you look around. They're yet to show OTT geek tendencies, or any inability to use a MS OS, as far as I can detect - you should be safe!

  6. Re:Why Linux? by Magus311X · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My first PC was one running Win3.1 with a 486/DX 33MHz, 4M EDO, and I think a 150MB disk. (My first computer was a Commodore 64 though).

    If you can up it to 8M of RAM, you are golden. SimTower, SimCity 2000, SimFarm all ran fine, as Doom.

    Don't throw a 6 year old at a Linux command line. Get him used to something like Win 3.1 and simply get him comfortable using a computer, period. Especially being able to type reasonably well and without having to hunt and peck.

    AFTER that -- he understands directories, files, executables, and can type well, then move him to something else, whatever it may be.
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