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MySQL A Threat to Bigwigs?
Disoculated writes "Is MySQL a threat to bigwigs? is the question asked in CNN's technology section. The article notes that MySQL is running perhaps 20% of the web databases but its revenue is merely 0.02%... yet the company is still making money and putting out an excellent product. Is this a sign that the database market is in for a drastic change? Of course, there's no mention of PostgreSQL or mSQL, but I guess that's typical."
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MySQL has the power (pretty much) to replace MS-SQL Server. That's not a question. The problem is that MySQL is a "at your own risk" type of application. The company doesn't really offer a robust support option. You get the software for free, and if you know how to use it (or can afford a trial-by-fire learning period), you can save money. Otherwise, it's an exotic but dangerous alternative.
I fully support the use of MySQL (or even PostGRE-SQL) with PHP over ASP(x) + SQL-Server. However, (good) documentation is a real killer in the open-source movement. Until there is quality documentation, MySQL will remain an experimental, fringe DB.
I know there are good 3rd-party books, but there should be a decent doc from the actual application developer. Otherwise, the perception is that the company only cares about DIY computer geeks. Maybe it's just me.
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Why Your so-called government doesn't do what you want
it to do.
1). Colin Powell -- Secretary of State, ex-chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, of Jamaican origin, he has one Jewish ancestor on his father's side. He grew up in a heavily Jewish-populated neighborhood in New York, and speaks Yiddish. The first day of being picked (12/16) he said he wanted to toughen sanctions on Iraq, and will work to "re-energize the sanctions regime."
2). Richard Perle -- One of Bush's Foreign Policy Advisors. He is chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. He had worked as Bush's Jewish national security campaign advisor. A very likely Israeli agent, Perle was expelled from Senator Henry Jackson's office in the 1970's after the National Security Agency (NSA) caught him passing Highly-Classified (National Security) documents to the Israeli Embassy. He later worked for the Israeli weapons firm, Soltam.
3). Paul Wolfowitz -- Deputy Defense Secretary, Bush's Jewish foreign policy campaign advisor, close
associate of Israeli agent Richard Perle, and reportedly has close ties to the Israeli military.
4). Robert Satloff -- U.S. National Security Council Advisor, Satloff was the executive director of the
Israeli lobby's "think tank," Washington Institute for Near East Policy. Many of the Israeli lobby's
"experts" come from this front group, like Martin Indyk.
5). Dov Zekheim -- Under Secretary of Defense and Comptroller. He was Bush's Jewish foreign policy
advisor and reportedly holds Israeli citizenship.
6). Douglas Feith -- Under Secretary of Defense and Policy Advisor at the Pentagon. He is a close
associate of Perle and served as his Special Counsel. Like Perle and the others, Feith is a pro-Israel
extremist, who has advocated anti-Arab policies in the past. He is closely associated with the extremist
group, the Zionist Organization of America, which even attacks Jews that don't agree with its extremist
views. Feith frequently speaks at ZOA conferences. Feith runs a small law firm, Feith and Zell, which
only has one International office, in Israel. The majority of their legal work is representing Israeli
interests. His firm's own website stated, prior to his appointment, that Feith "represents Israeli Armaments
Manufacturer." Feith basically represents the Israeli War Machine.
7). Elliott Abrams -- National Security Council Advisor. He previously worked at Washington-based
"Think Tank" Ethics and Public Policy Center. During the Reagan Adminstration, Abrams was the Assistant
Secretary of State,handling, for the most part, Latin American affairs. He played an important role in the Iran-Contra
Scandal, which involved illegally selling U.S. weapons to Iran to fight Iraq, and illegally funding the
contra rebels fighting to overthrow Nicaragua's Sandinista government. He also actively deceived three
congressional committees about his involvement and thereby faced felony charges based on his testimony.
Abrams pled guilty in 1991 to two misdemeanors and was sentenced to a year's probation and 100 hours of
community service. A year later, former President Bush (Senior) granted Abrams a full pardon. He was one of
the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the Reagan Administration's State Department.
8). Marc Grossman -- Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs. He was Director General of the
Foreign Service and Director of Human Resources at the Department of State. Grossman is one of many of the
Jewish officials from the Clinton Administration that Bush has promoted to higher posts.
9). Richard Haass -- Director of Policy Planning at the State Department and Ambassador at large. He is
also Director of National Security Programs and Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). He
was one of the more hawkish pro-Israel Jews in the first Bush (Sr) Administration who sat on the National
Security Council, and who consistently advocates bombing Iraq.
10). Henry Kissinger -- One of ma
Right. It can't be focusing MySQL just because it's the most popular free SQL. That's just impossible. Must be a huge conspiracy cooked up by MySQL's vast PR firm.
Very well said. MySQL is slower than crap if you attempt to do anything but simple selects. In Oracle or Postgres, one query can often replace two or more queries required in MySQL.
I submitted this 3 days ago....
Here are your recent submissions to Slashdot, and their status within the system:
* 2003-03-13 22:59:22 MySQL: A real alternative for your DB (articles,biz) (rejected)
Guess someone felt otherwise now. Feel free to mod me down.
We were all warned a long time ago that MS products sucked, remember the Magic 8 Ball said, "Outlook not so good"
I had to do some work on a Postgres system over the weekend. I come from a MySQL background.
Having heard people (a handful of noisy Postgres users I suspect) rant about how much better Postgres is and how unfair it is that MySQL is the No1 open source database, I had high hopes for my first experience.
I was quite disappointed. There are bugs. And those bugs have bugs. And the bugs' bugs have bugs too. You can't import from a backup made by a different verion of Postgres. That was my first problem. The older version I was using was trying to parse the comment marks (---). OK. So I upgraded to the latest version. The GUI (pgadmin) didn't work. I frigged with it for a while and decided to give up and get back to work. The command-line psql segfaults. Now that is a SERIOUS problem. I have never seen the MySQL client segfault, and I have used it a lot. Then there are stupid, stupid things like not being able to delete a column, or change a column type. Having used MySQL, I took those things for granted. I am always changing a column type to varchar(x) and pruning garbage off it (eg dollar signs and commas) and then converting it back to a numeric (double) field. Can't do it in Postgres. Why? I assume it's because all the developers have since migrated to MySQL.
Now I understand that Postgres supports views and stored procedures - both of which I'm not particularly impressed with. There are very easy work-arounds that you can do on the client side (which I do here at work), such as put all 'views' in functions, and just call the function to initialise the SQL string you want. Not very hard.
As for the relational stuff, InnoDB has supported that for ages and ages. Don't give us that non-relational argument crap no more.
Why do people use Postgres? I don't know. Maybe there are some who really really really need triggers. God knows why. As the MySQL developers point out (and they are quite correct) - this sort of thing should NOT happen on the server; it should be contained in the client software or middle tier. Views? See above. Don't need them. Stored procedures? Handy but honestly can be done just as easily at the client end.
Having used both, I can honestly say that I'd rather wait for MySQL to add the one thing I'm actually waiting for: stored procedures, than use Postgres. Postgres just gives me the shits. Maybe that's why MySQL is the No1 open source database.
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