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Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Reviewed
Julio writes "For some, the Audigy 2 is what the original Audigy should have been, however without trying to underestimate Creative efforts, they are bringing us today a revamped soundcard that is set to raise the bar like the original Live! did, many years ago.
You will be happy to know that Creative has taken care of the board quality from the ground up, newer and better DACs are used to ensure 24-Bit/96-kHz/192kHz playback and among the rest of niceties the card offers you have DVD-Audio playback, full 6.1 surround sound, THX certification and the mandatory (for a Creative soundcard) EAX Advanced HD."
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With that out of the way, the Audigy 2 looks to be a real step in the right direction as computer audio finally verges on the level of hi-fi. I personally have a plain ol' Audigy OEM card that has performed quite well for me, considering I don't record. Thankfully, though, Creative has finally come through with a mainstream version for those who do.
Hats off to Creative for continuing to improve in a field that could so easily lay stagnant.
Huh? they mentioned their extremely high selling live cards too. It's not Creative's fault that the card is now cheap ($27 oem from pricewatch) and sufficient for even gamers' needs...
Odd that this market is one where people don't seem to be upgrading to something they don't need.
...it'll be about 4 years until they get the drivers right.
Ok, consider first that I'm not a hardcore audiophile, and neither are most.
Once I got positional audio by way of the Live! series, what motivation is left to upgrade?
I mean I get positional audio and EAX in my games, I get surround sound in my movies. I rip/encode/playback my MP3s. I dont lose CPU time to the audio system, or deal with the setup hell that existed back in the ISA cards era. My PC isnt a media jukebox or lined through a $10,000 stereo, just a 4 way speaker set.
Why would anyone upgrade past Live, if they weren't an audiophile demanding the very latest (and even then, why would they? Most true audio geeks I know run 10 year old equipment).
I mean what breakthrough technologies have been developed? Two more speaker channels?
It's not like video cards. When Doom 3 comes out, and doesnt run on my computer, I can guarantee it will be because of the old Radeon card, not my SB Live.
So, really, what's been added to these things? Are there any good arguments to upgrade?
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I still like my old SB Live! Value. Good clear sound. Does well with games and mp3's. Of course, I'm not exactly an audiophile either.
For most (90%) of people, a good set of speakers is a much wiser investment in sound quality than a good sound card. On a cheap set of speakers, an SB Audigy, SB Live!, the AC97 that came with your mobo, and even a 10 year old SB16 don't sound terribly different. Only good speakers can truly take advantage of a good sound card.
I really do not understand the logic of Creative Labs. Why can't they offer up-to-date driver support for these other operating systems? Sure, they (Creative) are one of the featured Microsoft partners on *the Beast's* video ipod, but Nvidia makes the majority of the chips in the Xbox yet their relationship with MS doesn't hamper their ability to offer drivers for Linux, OS X, BSD, etc. Maybe they are just lazy. For all the talk about Linux adoption in Asia, Creative Labs sure is missing the boat, and they are a Singapore based company to boot! Maybe their CEO needs to be cained.
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This has always puzzled me: why is there such an obsession with preventing bit-for-bit copies? Properly done, digital re-recording from the analog output is likely to cause considerably less distortion than MP3 encoding, even at 256Kb/s. And the RIAA will be the first to tell you that MP3's are by far the biggest "piracy" threat represented by the internet. Preventing digital output will only be a minor impediment to copying, while the inability to use digital interconnects is a major blow to functionality.
While I'm sure this is a nice card I have really no need for 24 bit audio in the computer shack. Furthermore, I have some concers reguarding DRM.
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1. Have the MPAA/RIAA forced DRM into the DAC on this card?
2. What about CPU resources, is this card totally stupid and require the CPU to hold its hand in the D/A A/D process? Or is it smart enough to do this on its own.
3. How is support under Linux? I'd hate to plunk down my hard earned cash only to find that it only works under Windows.
4. Is it really worth it to justify replacing my perfectly functioning Sound Blaster Live! card I currently use?
Unless I can think of a reason to use 24 bit 96 KHz audio (other than home theater) I'll just stick with what I have..
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It's a PITA once, for one person. Then everyone else uses the same setup, since they have the exact same card. I agree that there are a lot of variables involved in analog recording, and a lot of complex decisions to be made; a good recording engineer is as much artist as engineer. But virtually none of those variables exist in a simple analog out -> analog in loop. Once properly adjusted, full-scale on the D/A will result in full scale on the A/D -- maximum safe S/N, no clipping, and so on.
I have an SBLive Platinum.
I just allow XP to load up whatever drivers it wants and I don't screw with it past that.
By doing that I have no annoying Creative splash screens or anything else bothering me.
Any reason you can't just slap the Audigy in and allow XP to handle the drivers?
The Audigy and Audigy 2 are full bus-mastering PCI cards, while the SBLive was not. The result is that many 2-3 year old VIA chipset mobos have problems with output crackling (and other distortions) when using an SBLive on a busy system. (Other chipsets have the issue as well, it's just impossible to ignore with certain VIA chipsets.)
Aside from bus mastering, the Audigy 2 Platinum can actually accept the SPDIF feeds under Win2K/XP, while the SBLive software didn't, doesn't, and will likely never work with SPDIF inputs once you stop running Win9x.
The rest of the "features" are just marketing crap to put on the box in hopes of suckering someone into wasting money. The only way the audio quality could be made "audiophile" is to feed pure digital from the card to a real surround sound amplifier, but it sounds like you lose the DVD-Audio playback when doing so. The RF interference in a computer case, relatively unstable power supplies, and use of chip amps make me laugh when I see companies claim "audiophile" sound quality for a sound card.
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The main thing they're trying to prevent is a home user making a copy-proof disc of their OWN original music. Ever notice how none of the common DRM formats let you encrypt stuff you've made yourself? The industry wants to make sure that all up-and-coming talent has to come through their doors...
I think you mean "*Windows* drivers for Creative cards still stuck".
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I bought a SoundBlaster Audigy card the last time that I upgraded my computer. I thought that Creative would have learned the lessons from making the SB 64, 128, and Live! cards, but no. My SoundBlaster Audigy makes a huge pop sound whenever the system is powered on or off. The sound also sometimes goes away while playing certain games. The AWE 32 Gold really was the last great Creative sound card -- trust those other posters who say so, they know it.
If it was not for the fact that Aureal went out of business. and driver support under Windows 2000 and XP was so poor (or at least was the last time I knew), I would have never stopped using the Diamond MX300 Audigy 2 chipset based cards that I have. I even use one of the two cards that I have on my GNU/Linux desktop, which gives fantastic sound!
As a systems administrator who is often purchasing hardware, Creative as a company does a really poor job. The driver nightmare is the worst. You find one of their cards, it has a model number on it, and the Creative website fails to list it -- it is like they don't support it. Sometimes you can find the product by name, but finding the drivers that you need on their website is a terrible. Just figuring out what product you have based upon their model numbers is a real challenge.
Creative sound cards are heavy on the marketing. What the hell can the justification for a consumer, NOT professional (Ask a pro, they will tell you, Creative = bad) sound card that costs over $80 be?
Creative is a really good example of a company marketing strategy though. They have really managed to build a demand for a product. It is like printing money, once you convince people that your product is worth more than it really is for the sake of status or whatever the reason is that people continue to buy Creative sound cards.