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The Definite Desktop Environment Comparison

Gentu writes "OSNews posted a very long and interesting comparison between the most popular desktop environments today: Windows XP Luna, Mac OS X Aqua, BeOS/Zeta and Unix's KDE and Gnome. Some of the points in the article can be thought to be 'subjective', but overall many good points are made and it seems that there is room for improvement for all DEs."

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  1. friist psot? by Coke+in+a+Can · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Sometimes I'm too much self for my own man.

    1. Re:friist psot? by Coke+in+a+Can · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Hm. Well, that's a bitch. I had logged out, but Mozilla filled in my username and password for me. Oh well, I was thinking of becoming a troll anyway.

      And hey, I got 2nd post, better than that time I got 3rd. Still no FPs for me, though.

  2. Posted using Luna by dannannan · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Luna gets the first post!

  3. WAR!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The Imperial Senate will no longer be of any concern to us. I have just received word that the Emperor has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.

    1. Re:WAR!!! by EugeneK · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this illiterate, dyslexic, religious fucknut that we elected. Well, sort of elected, sort of appointed.

    2. Re:WAR!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      As a "illiterate, dyslexic, religious fucknut" I'm offended. I'm no where near that naive (that people are buying his shit) or stupid (that I think I can get away with it).


      In ten years at the war crimes tribunal that bush fella my have a "momment of truth" himself.

    3. Re:WAR!!! by rindeee · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Thank God (with a capital G) that we finally have a President that will stand up to the U.N. and for what is right. Not flame bait, rather my honest opinion (that is allowed, even valued here...right?).

  4. Desktops be Damned! It's Time to get your War On! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Am I the only one with a hard-on right now?

  5. Duh... by foo+fighter · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    It's definitive, not definite.

    Good god.

    --
    obviously no deficiencies vs. no obvious deficiencies
  6. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I mean really. Does it at all matter that less than an hour ago, the President of the United States all but declared war.

    Are we really that self-absorbed?

    Hey, but you can make this cool animated background on an Aqua desktop where the current Iraqi body count is displayed via a CNN web search...
    yeesh

  7. Re:I love Aqua, but the dock annoys me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Dizzy: My mother always told me that violence doesn't solve anything.
    Jean Rasczak: Really. I wonder what the city founders of Hiroshima would have to say about that. You.
    Carmen: They wouldn't say anything. Hiroshima was destroyed.
    Jean Rasczak: Correct. Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is mearly wishful thinking at its worst!

  8. someone suck my dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    yes I'm a shemale..you just had to ask. I got tired of pounding the cushion for a pushing cuz the cushion got way over inflated and to much meat to grind. No I ain't black...just call me whitey.

  9. 47 hours to go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3284-61460 7,00.html

    There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they went in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food . . . on one occasion, I saw Qusay [President Saddam Hussein's youngest son] personally supervise these murders.

    Forty seven hours left until this crap stops - despite the machinations of the corrupt Frog who first sold Saddam a nuclear reactor - that he knew would be used to make nuclear weapons - back in the 1970s...

    1. Re:47 hours to go... by hammarlund · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      oh yes, and don't forget the AMERICAN SUPPLY HOUSE, the American Type Culture Collection of Manassas, Va., who sold Iraq the biological agents that may or may not currently exist in their arsenal, with US GOVERNMENT APPROVAL, as reported in the March 16 NYT.

      Sorry to cloud this issue with facts. So, what exactly was sold to Iraq by this US FIRM? Well, bacillus anthracis (causes anthrax), clostridium perfringens, clostridium botulinum, brucella abortus, clostridium tetani, bacillus megaterium, bacillus subtilis, bacillus cereus, brucella melitensis, franciscella tularensis, corynebacterium diptheria, and bacillus licheniformis.

      There's more than enough blame to go around here, without gang banging the French. Let's just leave that to dubya.

  10. UNSC declared war 12 1/2 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    When Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1990.

    Bill Clinton officially signed into law that it is US policy to remove Saddam Hussein from power back in 1998.

    Since Saddam agreed to totally disarm in 1991 in order to stay in power, the UN Security Council has passed a total of 17 resolutions demanding that Iraq disarm.

  11. Re:Summary from the page...load of crapola, BTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    God fucking damn it! Eugenia Loli-Queru is a WOMAN!

  12. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  13. For the record. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Some shit on Iraq.

    The original intelligence reports that sent the ships overseas to begin with have been proven false.

    For the most part Hussian has complied (in spirit) of the US and UN resolutions.

    This war is a fiction and the gov is proving it's willing to use misinformation coupled with goverment actions to commit murder (heh... at least in a more identifyable form)

    And lastly, there is such a thing as mainland Europe.

    I'm still kind of young and this kind of stuff depresses the hell out of me.

  14. Re:I love Aqua, but the dock annoys me by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Oh, for crying out loud. If you're going to go completely off-topic in order to invoke Heinlein, at least have the decency to quote the book and not the movie.
    But on the last day he seemed to be trying to find out what we had learned. One girl told him bluntly: "My mother says that violence never settles anything."

    "So?" Mr. Dubois looked at her bleakly. "I'm sure the city fathers of Carthage would be glad to know that. Why doesn't your mother tell them so? Or why don't you?"

    They had tangled before-- since you couldn't flunk the course, it wasn't necessary to keep Mr. Dubois buttered up. She said shrilly, "You're making fun of me! Everybody knows that Carthage was destroyed!"

    "You seemed to be unaware of it," he said grimly. "Since you do know it, wouldn't you say that violence had settled their destinies rather thoroughly? However, I was not making fun of you personally; I was heaping scorn on an inexcusably silly idea-- a practice I shall always follow. Anyone who clings to the historically untrue-- and thoroughly immoral-- doctrine that 'violence never settles anything' I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and their freedoms."

    He sighed. "Another year, another class-- and, for me, another failure. One can lead a child to knowledge but one cannot make him think." Suddenly he pointed his stump at me. "You. What is the moral difference, if any, between the soldier and the civilian?"

    "The difference," I answered carefully," lies in the field of civic virtue. A soldier accepts personal responsibility for the safety of the body politic of which he is a member, defending it, if need be, with his life. The civilian does not."

    "The exact words of the book," he said scornfully. "But do you understand it? Do you believe it?"

    "Uh, I don't know, sir."

    "Of course you don't! I doubt if any of you here would recognize 'civic virtue' if it came up and barked in your face!" He glanced at his watch. "And that is all, a final all. Perhaps we shall meet again under happier circumstances. Dismissed."
    --

    I write in my journal
  15. Re:Silent is good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What most US citizens don't consider is that the UN isn't all for keeping Hussein in power. They do, however, want to give peace a chance.

    Think this way: If Bush had said 72 hours instead of 48 hours there would be hundreds of thousands of people that could live another 24 hours. To us 24 hours isn't much, but to them it is 50% of the rest of their life.

    I dunno, its just my opinion. I've been to many protests and the US Administration took the ultimate "not giving a shit" stance. He better hope and pray this war goes quick and painlessly or he's out of a job.

  16. Re:Silent is good by pfguy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    You realize that the majority of americans are for a war with Iraq? You are the minority and he will remain in office as long as he doesn't do anything stupid.

  17. I am happy you like how OSX looks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ... because then you have something pretty to look at while you wait - again - for the beachball to disappear. Which usually takes a while. Which was also pointed out.

  18. Re:Silent is good by eno2001 · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    ...he will remain in office as long as he doesn't do anything stupid.

    Whoa! You've just made me feel a whole lot better. Now I KNOW he won't remain in office. He's done sooo many stupid things I lost count a long time ago.

    2004 - Anybody But Bush

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    -"...bad old ideas look confusingly fresh when they are packaged as technology" - Jaron Lanier (Digital Maoism on Edge.o
  19. Re:Silent is good by commodoresloat · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    as long as he doesn't do anything stupid.

    Yeah, like openly defying international law so he can pick a fight with an annoying little dictator whose main crime at the moment seems to be that he's weaker than North Korea. As long as he doesn't do anything stupid like that he'll be fine.

  20. Re:Little Room?! by Michael+Mooore · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Monday, March 17th, 2003

    George W. Bush
    1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
    Washington, DC

    Dear Governor Bush:

    So today is what you call "the moment of truth," the day that "France and the rest of world have to show their cards on the table." I'm glad to hear that this day has finally arrived. Because, I gotta tell ya, having survived 440 days of your lying and conniving, I wasn't sure if I could take much more. So I'm glad to hear that today is Truth Day, 'cause I got a few truths I would like to share with you:

    1. There is virtually NO ONE in America (talk radio nutters and Fox News aside) who is gung-ho to go to war. Trust me on this one. Walk out of the White House and on to any street in America and try to find five people who are PASSIONATE about wanting to kill Iraqis. YOU WON'T FIND THEM! Why? 'Cause NO Iraqis have ever come here and killed any of us! No Iraqi has even threatened to do that. You see, this is how we average Americans think: If a certain so-and-so is not perceived as a threat to our lives, then, believe it or not, we don't want to kill him! Funny how that works!
    2. The majority of Americans -- the ones who never elected you -- are not fooled by your weapons of mass distraction. We know what the real issues are that affect our daily lives -- and none of them begin with I or end in Q. Here's what threatens us: two and a half million jobs lost since you took office, the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one knowing if their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs two dollars a gallon -- the list goes on and on. Bombing Iraq will not make any of this go away. Only you need to go away for things to improve.
    3. As Bill Maher said last week, how bad do you have to suck to lose a popularity contest with Saddam Hussein? The whole world is against you, Mr. Bush. Count your fellow Americans among them.
    4. The Pope has said this war is wrong, that it is a SIN. The Pope! But even worse, the Dixie Chicks have now come out against you! How bad does it have to get before you realize that you are an army of one on this war? Of course, this is a war you personally won't have to fight. Just like when you went AWOL while the poor were shipped to Vietnam in your place.
    5. Of the 535 members of Congress, only ONE (Sen. Johnson of South Dakota) has an enlisted son or daughter in the armed forces! If you really want to stand up for America, please send your twin daughters over to Kuwait right now and let them don their chemical warfare suits. And let's see every member of Congress with a child of military age also sacrifice their kids for this war effort. What's that you say? You don't THINK so? Well, hey, guess what -- we don't think so either!
    6. Finally, we love France. Yes, they have pulled some royal screw-ups. Yes, some of them can be pretty damn annoying. But have you forgotten we wouldn't even have this country known as America if it weren't for the French? That it was their help in the Revolutionary War that won it for us? That it was France who gave us our Statue of Liberty, a Frenchman who built the Chevrolet, and a pair of French brothers who invented the movies? And now they are doing what only a good friend can do -- tell you the truth about yourself, straight, no b.s. Quit pissing on the French and thank them for getting it right for once. You know, you really should have traveled more (like once) before you took over. Your ignorance of the world has not only made you look stupid, it has painted you into a corner you can't get out of.

    Well, cheer up -- there IS good news. If you do go through with this war, more than likely it will be over soon because I'm guessing there aren't a lot of Iraqis willing to lay down their lives to protect Saddam Hussein. After you "win" the war, you will enjoy a huge bump in the popularity polls as everyone loves a winner -- and who doesn't like to see a good ass-whoopin' every now and then (especially when it 's some third world ass!). And just like with Afgh

  21. The Resignation Speech of Robin Cook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The Resignation Speech of Robin Cook (British Member of Parliament)

    17 March 2003 9.44 pm

    Mr. Robin Cook (Livingston): This is the first time for 20 years that I have addressed the House from the Back Benches. I must confess that I had forgotten how much better the view is from here. None of those 20 years were more enjoyable or more rewarding than the past two, in which I have had the immense privilege of serving this House as Leader of the House, which were made all the more enjoyable, Mr. Speaker, by the opportunity of working closely with you.

    It was frequently the necessity for me as Leader of the House to talk my way out of accusations that a statement had been preceded by a press interview. On this occasion I can say with complete confidence that no press interview has been given before this statement. I have chosen to address the House first on why I cannot support a war without international agreement or domestic support.

    The present Prime Minister is the most successful leader of the Labour party in my lifetime. I hope that he will continue to be the leader of our party, and I hope that he will continue to be successful. I have no sympathy with, and I will give no comfort to, those who want to use this crisis to displace him.

    I applaud the heroic efforts that the Prime Minister has made in trying to secure a second resolution. I do not think that anybody could have done better than the Foreign Secretary in working to get support for a second resolution within the Security Council. But the very intensity of those attempts underlines how important it was to succeed. Now that those attempts have failed, we cannot pretend that getting a second resolution was of no importance.

    France has been at the receiving end of bucketloads of commentary in recent days. It is not France alone that wants more time for inspections. Germany wants more time for inspections; Russia wants more time for inspections; indeed, at no time have we signed up even the minimum necessary to carry a second resolution. We delude ourselves if we think that the degree of international hostility is all the result of President Chirac. The reality is that Britain is being asked to embark on a war without agreement in any of the international bodies of which we are a leading partner-not NATO, not the European Union and, now, not the Security Council.

    To end up in such diplomatic weakness is a serious reverse. Only a year ago, we and the United States were part of a coalition against terrorism that was wider and more diverse than I would ever have imagined possible. History will be astonished at the diplomatic miscalculations that led so quickly to the disintegration of that powerful coalition. The US can afford to go it alone, but Britain is not a superpower. Our interests are best protected not by unilateral action but by multilateral agreement and a world order governed by rules. Yet tonight the international partnerships most important to us are weakened: the European Union is divided; the Security Council is in stalemate. Those are heavy casualties of a war in which a shot has yet to be fired.

    I have heard some parallels between military action in these circumstances and the military action that we took in Kosovo. There was no doubt about the multilateral support that we had for the action that we took in Kosovo. It was supported by NATO; it was supported by the European Union; it was supported by every single one of the seven neighbours in the region. France and Germany were our active allies. It is precisely because we have none of that support in this case that it was all the more important to get agreement in the Security Council as the last hope of demonstrating international agreement.

    The legal basis for our action in Kosovo was the need to respond to an urgent and compelling humanitarian crisis. Our difficulty in getting support this time is that neither the international community nor the British public is persuaded that there is an urgent and compelling reason for thi