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Freenet 0.5.1 Released, P2P Network Stabilizing

mids writes "With version 0.5.1, Freenet isn't only the most secure & anonymous P2P network, but also getting pretty fast! Reliable downloading of files as large as 700MB from Freenet at average download rates as high as 100k/sec on a broadband internet connection are sighted (which compares quite favorably to more conventional P2P applications)."

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  1. Speed/Content/Searchable by Geekbot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think there are really only 3 pivotal factors for any P2P.
    1)Speed: If you have a gazillion files but it take 4 hours to get an mp3, no one will use it.
    2)Content: I can go to kazaa and find music, software, video's, pictures, basically, everything. If a user has to use 3 different P2P engines to get what they want, it wont last.
    3)Searchable: If it's a pain to find the files you are looking for then you wont use it, and so fewer files will be available, and more people will end up dropping it due to content.

    Speeds seem to be terrible on all of the services I've used. Kazaa (Kazaalite) has the ability to download from multiple users, making up for that a little bit. I'm curious what speeds freenet can pull down from individual users. I've been thinking that those terrible speeds might just be from restrictive caps that ISP's might be placing on the P2P popular ports.

  2. How does this compare to Edonkey/Emule? by NoDoZ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know I see 300k/sec downloads on emule, and I find just about anything I'm looking for on it.

    Why is freenet better than edonkey?

  3. The REALLY nice thing about freenet by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Note: IAHFU (I Am a Happy Freenet User)

    As it is fundamentally web based, freenet represents the a system where being able to publish is not dependedent on being able to buy server space. This represents a very real democratisation of the net ($10 a month is a lot more in Asia), and the totally anonimous nature of the ntwork allows for much freer political speech.

    It is also worth noting that it automatically spreads frequently requested data across the network, meaning no more slashdot effect. This also makes for a more effecient network, as data is stored near to you.

    You want to support the freedom of code? Get freenet and do your bit.

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    1. Re:The REALLY nice thing about freenet by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, it could be vulnerable to the slashdot effect - sort of. The freenet distribution comes with (iirc) 100 'seed' nodes. These are exported periodically from the hawk.freenetproject.org node. Your node picks 50 of them and uses them as peers. It soon migrates off the seed nodes and onto other nodes. But those first 50 could well be slashdotted.

  4. The problem is... by benjiboo · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Even though there are many legitimite uses of file sharing apps, P2P will be forever linked with copyright infringement and misuse. If the holy grail of a fast, anonymous, reliable and completely distributed P2P apps was ever reached, it would inevitably attract the mp3 sharing masses.

    The bandwagon rolls on though. The only way to stop P2P IMO is go after the ISP's. I'm no sysadmin, but I'm sure it would be possible for block certain ports, report heavy downloaders etc. At the moment nobody dare do this for fear of a mass exodus of customers, but if the law made sure that all of these ISP's had to comply, I'm sure they alone would be able to stop the spread. How feasible is it for the ISP's to put barriers in place?

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    1. Re:The problem is... by praedor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Does this mean that if I am downloading the latest distro release from (distro) that I get screwed because I was downloading a whole lot of "stuff" and thus must be "pirating"?


      Heavy downloading cannot be the switch that cuts off a user or set of users. Also, what if you are in on a collaborative project of some kind? Into multimedia development? You could end up with lots of back-and-forth file swapping.


      Any flag setoff for cutting off a user at the ISP had better be pretty robust so that it doesn't nail innocent net users (who are using the net for its INTENDED PURPOSE afterall). How do you do that? Ban mp3 downloads/transfers? What if they are MY mp3s? Or MY videos? Maybe I'm an amateur film maker or in a garage band.


      P2P cannot be killed without gutting one of the primary reasons for the internet's very existence. It was NOT designed just to distribute commercial products properly paid for. That is a tack-on that came well AFTER file sharing/data sharing.

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  5. Perfect timing. by Limburgher · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Freenet is the perfect medium for journalism, because it is anonymous and cannot be taken down by any governmental entity.

    Class, can anyone think of why this might be helpful RIGHT NOW?

    Also, check out Freeweb. Easy Freenet Web publishing. Servereless. Beautiful. Windoze-only, but nice for daily news sites. Used to run one back in Freenet 0.3.9.

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  6. Re:Child Porn by stratjakt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can be arrested and charged for posessing child porn. I knew a guy online who was in the military, and ran a ftp server from his home. People would basically come and go trading files, mostly porn pics.

    Someone stuck a bunch of kiddie porn on the site, and the short story is he's serving 5 years in military prison, and the fact that he had no idea that it was there didn't make a difference.

    The same thing would happen to you if you let some friend store a bunch of his boxes in your garage, and they were full of child porn.

    Now, since freenet distributes all of the "published" stuff across everyone elses machines basically, are you criminially responsible if someones kiddie porn is partially stored on your hard drive?

    The answer is probably yes, though IANAL.

    How can individual users claim that they have no responsiblity for what's being served by their machines?

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  7. too risky for me by elohim · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd like to use freenet, but I can't. I can't risk the possibility, however remote, of having child porn cached on my computer. I have too much to lose.