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Wavy Lenses Extend Depth of Field in Digital Imaging

genegeek writes "On Feb 25 CDM Optics was awarded a patent for a new digital imaging system utilizing "Wavefront Coding" that produces images with 10-fold the depth of field of conventional lenses. The image itself is blurred until processed. Image examples are here."

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  1. So by Ravenscall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Basically what this is saying is that if I go out and get a new whiz-bang camera with this funky new lens, I will be able to take a picture almost as good as the pictures I take with my 30 year old Cannon AE-1, and not have the leeway of doing photo processing tricks in the darkroom.

    Personally, I will stick to analog photography.

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    1. Re:So by egomaniac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Basically what this is saying is that if I go out and get a new whiz-bang camera with this funky new lens, I will be able to take a picture almost as good as the pictures I take with my 30 year old Cannon AE-1, and not have the leeway of doing photo processing tricks in the darkroom.

      You stick to your film. I'll stack my Nikon D1X against your 30-year-old camera any day of the week, personally. And that's not even top of the line anymore -- Canon has a new 11MP camera that puts any 35mm camera to shame.

      Just because $300 consumer digicams are crap doesn't mean that digital hasn't already surpassed film. It's just a matter of making it affordable now.

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    2. Re:So by blaine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah, and you don't have to buy film for a digital camera.

      Don't think this is a big deal? I'm into amateur photography, and I have a camera that I only bought 9 months ago that I've taken 1500 shots with. Have I kept them all? No. Have I printed them all? No.

      And that's the point, for me. I paid $1k for a camera, and now I can take as many pictures as I'd like, without having to pay for it every damn time. The pictures that I do want printed, I can get done for very reasonable prices at places like Shutterfly. And the ones that turn out bad, or I just don't feel like printing, cost me exactly $0.

      Do some math. How much would I have spent on film and processing for a traditional 35mm camera in the last 9 months, had I gone that route instead of the digital? By my reckoning, it'd be at least $500, if not more, depending on the quality of the film I purchased. Within another year or so, the camera will have paid for itself, if only in reduced cost per image.

      And as for artistic purposes ... uhh ... what? A lot of professionals and artists have begun switching to digital. There's nothing about digital that makes it any less artistic. In fact, if nothing else, it gives the artist more freedom, in that they can more easily review their work, and learn from their mistakes. The turnaround time is far shorter (ie. instantaneous), and that means that they can take more shots, and more quickly tell if they're getting the effect they desire.

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    3. Re:So by plover · · Score: 4, Informative
      Except that weakness turns out to be a strength when dealing with aliasing. The random orientation of the individual grains avoids aliasing issues. Even at a resolution exceeding that of the film grain, a grid of parallel lines (especially parallel or concentric curves) can produce a noticable moire effect. Also, I've found that angled black and white lines can have noticable color artifacts (although I understand there's a new CCD technology that's supposed to overcome this problem.) The randomness of the grain also seems to provide a "softening" effect that I personally find more pleasing than the regularity of a matrix of pixels.

      Don't get me wrong: I *love* my Canon PowerShot G2 (4MP). I've been extremely pleased with the results in a 4x6 format. I've blown up some as large as 8x10 (had them professionally printed and developed) and find that the quality is almost as good as prints made from 100 ISO 35mm film. Having "during the shot" color balancing also makes it much easier to get useable prints without serious headaches. And it's certainly more conveinent to me to have the images digitally available, too.

      I also find that without my old-school mental block of "don't waste film" is gone, and that I now take many more shots than I used to. It leads to a bigger choice of shots to choose from, so I now get better final prints. Yes, I know I wasn't supposed to worry about "wasting film" before, but those old habits are very hard to break.

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  2. Re:first and still /. ed? by travail_jgd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes. Even with the new lenses, they didn't see the Slashdot Effect coming. :)

  3. Re:first and still /. ed? by arvindn · · Score: 4, Funny

    They did, but didn't have time to process it so it was too blurred to make out :)

  4. very cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ah yes, I know this system well. I did my master's research in extended depth-of-field optics and came across this research which pretty much blew away what I was working on.

    Here's a bit of background: in photography or laser scanning (point-by-point photography, basically), you always have a trade-off between depth-of-field and aperture size (as any photographer knows). Bigger aperture means shallow depth-of-field. However, a smaller aperture means lots of wasted light (imagine closing the aperture in your camera), and this means longer exposure times, and more importantly more NOISE in your images. This is true for digital, film, or photodetector.

    So the "holy grail" is to keep the aperture open but still have high depth-of-field. This system depends on changing the phase of the light, instead of the amplitude (which is what you do when you stop down a lens to a smaller aperture). That way, no light energy is blocked and wasted.

    Since the phase is changed, the resulting image on the CCD or film is fuzzy and has to be "decoded". You can think of it as "encoding" the wavefront in a special way that preserves the depth of field, capturing the image, and then "decoding" it into a sharp picture. It is really amazing. I hope it shows up in consumer cameras someday, it could completely change consumer photography since most "snapshot photographers" don't care about depth of field or all that stuff. It will also be great for medical and industrial imaging.

    My system was sort of a hybrid between shading the aperture (instead of a sudden stopping of light, it gradually goes to black at the edge) and phase changes. Lots of people have been working on this problem over the years, but these guys really stripped the problem down to the essence and came up with a highly optimized solution.

    1. Re:very cool by .com+b4+.storm · · Score: 4, Funny

      I did my master's research in extended depth-of-field optics

      Was he a cruel master, or a tough but fair one? :) </lame>

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  5. Analog 'tricks' are still better though. by caveat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just because the base image quality may not be better (for 8x10 and larger from a 35mm sized camera, digital is so much better, but I like analog for 3X5 snapshots) doesn't mean the tricks and effects are neccessarily better.

    Photoshop is great software, but no matter how much I try, basic manipulation (on b&w images particularly), especially brightness/contrast adjustment and dodging/burning, always gives me much better results under an enlarger. Same for exposure effects; Photoshop's solarize filter is good, but there's just some intangible warmth and...analog-ness to a well-solarized paper print. Maybe it's just the random scatter and size of the grain of film against the gridded regularity of the digital images, or the slight variation in quality across the print (not imperfect, but not...digitally homogenous), but for purely aesthetic ends, I have to go with film and paper.

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  6. What?! by return+42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    A story...on Slashdot...about a patent...that's legitimate?

  7. Film and digital resolution comparisons by JeremyR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are at least two experienced photographers (Rob Galbraith and Michael Reichmann) who feel that the 11-megapixel Canon EOS-1Ds delivers images with detail exceeding that of 35mm and approaching (in some cases besting) medium format film. They've published some very interesting comparisons:

    http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.as p? cid=7-4833-4853

    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/camera s/ 1ds/1ds-field.shtml

    This may just change someone's opinon on how digital compares to film. I know it made me rethink the "conventional wisdom" that many more pixels are needed to reproduce film detail.

    Cheers,
    Jeremy

    1. Re:Film and digital resolution comparisons by darkonc · · Score: 4, Informative
      http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp? cid=7-4833-4853
      and: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/ 1ds/1ds-field.shtml

      It's just polite to make such links both active and accurate (extraneous spaces in both links -- probably inserted by slashdot because you tried to submit the URLs as plain text).

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  8. what is more interesting to me as a photographer.. by dbc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... and I can't find out because the site is /.'ed :-(
    is this: Can this technology be used to control (not just increase, but also decrease) depth of field at image processing time? More specifically, can I get selective focus *after* creating the image? In criticizing my own work, I ususally wish I had openned up for *less* depth of field. I realize that sports photographers don't have this problem :-) but some of us nature photographers do.

  9. University site with original papers by iblink · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although Colorado University may never forgive me, this address has links to the research papers as well as more images: http://www.colorado.edu/isl/

  10. Re:Digital has better colour? What??? by egomaniac · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Slide film captures the colour exactly as it was, whereas digital rounds it to the nearest bit.

    This is what we refer to as "argument by bizarre definition".

    Slide film captures color via photochemicals that change in response to light. Digital cameras capture color via sensors that signal in response to light. Saying that one is better "by definition" is patently absurd.

    If slide film is inherently perfect, why are there so many different slide films with different color responses? If slide film captures color "exactly as it was", why is Fuji Velvia widely known for producing great landscape shots but murdering skin-tones? Slide film has all the same color concerns that any other capture method has -- good red response but poor greens, or great blues but muddy purples, for instance. Nothing is perfect, especially when the only real way to judge them is using the also-imperfect human eye.

    I'm not basing my "better color" assertion on a bizarre definition of the abstract ideal. It's just my opinion, but I hold that my professional digital SLR, with little or no post-processing, produces better color than anything the film world has to offer. "Good color" is a subjective thing, and while you may disagree with me about that (cite examples please!), I stand by my statement.

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  11. Noise floor and linearity by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If anything, as other people posted, digital is closer to the "real thing".

    One person mentioned that Fuji Velvia is great for landscapes but murders skin tones. This is because the sensitivity curve of a digital can be easily optimized, while it's very difficult to tweak the sensitivity and linearity of films based on chemical reactions.

    As to rounding to the nearest bit - There's a lower limit in both electronic and film recording of the precision that a light level can be recorded which is distinguishable from noise. This is called the "noise floor" - Use enough bits, and then all the bit roundoffs will be well below the noise floor of even film media. (Which does indeed have a noise floor, just as digitals do. The nice thing about digitals is that with improved electronics and sensors, the noise floor of the sensor is dropping while film is staying the same. One of the things "pro" digitals are known for is having far less noise than lower-end digitals, and those improvements are constantly moving down to the consumer level.)

    And for those that WANT the nonlinearities/quirks of film - All a camera manufacturer has to do is model the nonlinearities of major film types and then they can easily be emulated, just like guitar amps that use modeling techniques to emulate older units.

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