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Bluetooth + WiFi + GSM = Wanda

nackrm writes "CNN is reporting on the latest from Texas Instruments seen recently at the Cellular Telecommunication and Internet Association (CTIA) conference in New Orleans. They've managed to jam these three techs into one chip. Soon we'll be seeing the techie equivalent of a swiss army knife."

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  1. Which ties in quite nicey with... by djkitsch · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm sure some of you have read this on Wired, regarding 'Dick Tracy' watches - this seems like something which might move us even closer to the reality :-)

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    1. Re:Which ties in quite nicey with... by namespan · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was thinking more of an "Electronic Thumb"... :)

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    2. Re:Which ties in quite nicey with... by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, a Bluetooth watch could be used with a cellphone in a pocket or on a belt. It would be an interesting "handsfree" way of using the phone.

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    3. Re:Which ties in quite nicey with... by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think an electronic "middle finger" would be more fun...

  2. Bluetooth by DJ+FirBee · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought bluetooth had went the way of 100base VG, betamax, bernoulli drives, .sea compression, BeOS, 8 track, and SACD.

    Now that I hear this, I think, maybe this is just what the technology needs to become uber prevalent.

    HA HA I AM KIDDING !!!!

    It will still be a distant 47th to IR connectivity.

    1. Re:Bluetooth by giberti · · Score: 5, Informative

      I recently bought a blue tooth phone and a Palm T with blue tooth and have been enjoying the freedom from AvantGo. It isn't fast like a desktop, but it gets the job done. Its also nice to keep my contacts/calendar in sync between the palm and phone so if I don't want to lug the palm around, I'm not lost.

      And line of site is a pain with IR.

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    2. Re:Bluetooth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      you can't be serious...

      the essential difference between bluetooth and IR is that iR own't keep a connection if you don't keep perfectly still.

      IR has even failed on me due to my switching on or off my desk lamp...

  3. sounds fishy to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    well, it does.

  4. Not one chip! by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The submitter didn't even RTFA. WANDA (there's the link that the submitter was too lazy to give you) is at least 7 chips.

    1. Re:Not one chip! by glenkim · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not quite. CNN says that it's all on one chipset. So CNN is also to blame for misreporting.

  5. GPRS, 2.4Ghz interference myth? by Ken@WearableTech · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What about GPRS? Is that part of the GSM Chipset? Also this article talks about Bluetooth and 802.11b "just don't like each other" I use both right on top of each other and have never had any trouble. Is the 2.4Ghz interference real or a myth?

    1. Re:GPRS, 2.4Ghz interference myth? by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 4, Informative

      WANDA has GPRS.

      802.11/Bluetooth interference is a problem for some wireless chips and not a problem for others; it's not clear why.

  6. Prediction by kirun · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We'll be seeing phones with this fitted... ooh... five minutes after everyone's bought a camera phone?

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  7. a fish called wanda by fiiz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bluetooth + WiFi + GSM = "a fish?"

    I knew we had fish genes in tomatoes, but now in silicon chips? What else could the codename possibly allude to? (wait...you know the movie right? for those of you who were too young, there's a classic 1988 movie "a fish called wanda")

    Seriously, how are they coming up with those acronyms?

    Ok, you can get back to posting intelligent comments, now ;-p

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  8. Bluetooth and Wifi not playing nicely? by tupps · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I noticed that in this article that the guys at TI were having problems getting Wifi and Bluetooth to play nicely with each other. Which is coincidently is what Apple stated as a problem they had in the dev of the 12 and 17 inch notebooks which have integrated bluetooth and wifi. I wonder if ti need seperate attenaes for Wifi and Bluetooth?

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  9. Anywhere access... by Justen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have been waiting for this for quite a while.

    The idea of "anywhere" access isn't new. Almost every wireless company has included it in their .com business plans at one point or another. But there has always been a reality that it just isn't all that realistic for a single protocol. That is, it isn't very cost-effective to utilize a wide-area terrestrial wireless network when you are sitting five feet from an wi-fi base station.

    I think that this card will bring mobile warriors a bit closer to the idea of truly affordable anywhere access.

    justen

  10. Why GSM? by mrklin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seems like the technology is aimed toward wireless data so why GSM? Why not GPRS, 1xRTT, 3G, etc, instead?

    1. Re:Why GSM? by Czernobog · · Score: 2, Informative

      Simple. GSM is used almost everywhere in the world. It's the most widely available mode of celular telephony.
      Exceptions include Japan, South Korea and the US.
      Pretty much everyone else uses GSM.

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    2. Re:Why GSM? by taweili · · Score: 2, Informative

      Because GSM is the most widely deploy standard in the world. What's in GPRS/1xRTT/3G? It's data!!! Expensive and low speed 2.5G/3G data. Combining WiFi with GSM, you get a 3G killer. Who needs to wait for 3G to realize while you can get WiFi data today in cheaper price and much higher bandwidth?

  11. Interference? by onthefenceman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does anyone know anymore about the antenna design on this chip? It seems to me that would be pretty difficult to engineer. The GSM is a secondary issue, but I know that Bluetooth and WiFi in close proximity can interfere with each other considering they're closer to the same frequency.

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  12. Power requirements... by craenor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Like to see what the power draw on this chip is. WiFi is a power hog. Something like this sounds like it would be pretty ideal for portable computers.

    *goes back to actually read the story now*

    Craenor

  13. Article at infoSync by cemysce · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is another article about TI's WANDA.

    1. Re:Article at infoSync by cemysce · · Score: 2, Informative

      ... which stands for Wireless Any Network Digital Assistant.

  14. holy crap! by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm sitting here with my bluetooth-enabled laptop, pda, and phone, and you're telling me it's all obsolete now?!?!?

    Damnit!

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  15. Thumb a lift by djkitsch · · Score: 4, Funny

    But who wants to thumb a lift to Barnard's star? Or is your name really Ford Prefect?

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  16. Re:pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

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  17. Bloody brilliant, but... by Mac+Degger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Now this is exactly the featurte set I wanted, but what do those idiots do? They put PocketPC on it. Sigh...guess I'll have to wait another couple of months for this kind of thing running PalmOS.
    But by that time, I'll want one with OLED or E-Ink :)

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  18. GNU Radio by cosmosis · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think this is a cool development of TI, but the real future is software definied radio and the GNU Radio project, which is a general purpose computing device that can operate on any frequency - all determined by software, not hardware.

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  19. Single Chip BT is Good by JakiChan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ti coming out with a single-chip Bluetooth solution is a Good Thing. I remember seeing more than one article saying that if they squeeze Bluetooth onto a single chip it would drive prices down, which would hopefully lead to more BT enabled devices. The chips would be cheaper and it would be easier to put on a device.

    I hope that's the case. Just having my Powerbook talk to my T68 is handy...I'll get a headset eventually, and throw in a BT enable PDA and it's all good. In theory you could dial your phone from the PDA, speak on the headset, and never take the phone out of your pocket. And as nice as syncing my phone's phonebook with my PIM it will never be as nice as being able to dial from the PDA. Oh, and it would mean I could write an app to have my PDA notify me when my phone gets a page, since the SMS notification on the T68 is it's biggest flaw (at least to me).

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  20. The techie equivalent of a swiss army knife... by dcuny · · Score: 2, Funny
    Soon we'll be seeing the techie equivalent of a swiss army knife.
    Oh, you mean a sonic screwdriver?
  21. It's not a Single Chipset by ceranta · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looking at the site and TI press releases it's clear that WANDA is a reference design for a Tri-Wireless platform, which includes GSM/GPRS, WiFi, Bluetooth. It uses the OMAP processor/dsp (one chip), Bluetooth single chip (one chip), WiFi single chip (one chip), and the Baseband/Radio (three chips).

    So, that's 6 ICs right there. Not a Single Chip, but a Single Chipset.

    Since there is integration across the board, there are less worries about spectrum bashing (esp with WiFi and Bluetooth) since they can allocate the spectrum efficiently and properly.

    And it's a Concept Design ... we all know how well concept designs work in real life.