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Anything Box Releases An Album To Share

cats writes "Anything Box, the synthpop band from the 80's who had a hit with 'Living in Oblivion' have released an introspective albumn in mp3 format under a 'freeware' style license. Anyone who has ever seen these guys perform know they are just a bunch of nice people trying to make ends meet as musicians. I had the opportunity to hang with Claude before his show in NJ at The Pipe back in 1998. He had some interesting asides about how the music business in general operates. They manipulate the artists' work as well as take huge cuts of musicians' profits. The album is available via download as one big zip file including artwork and is in mp3 format. Very cool."

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  1. OK by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 5, Funny

    So now does that make them a one download wonder?

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  2. I would love to hear this group by Rooked_One · · Score: 3, Interesting

    but anonymous login to download the file is denied. Anyone know if this is just temp to deal with the /. effect?

    1. Re:I would love to hear this group by milkmandan9 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Manually FTPing in reveals that there is a 10-user limit to the server.

      What are the odds you or I will be one of them?

      That's what I thought. I'll be back in a few days.

    2. Re:I would love to hear this group by slugo3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      from the site

      "C+P Presswerk.13 Media. All Rights Reserved. These titles may not be mass manufactured, resold, or otherwise distributed in stores without the permission of Presswerk.13 Media. They are to remain FREE as the artist intended. If you bought this album, please report it to us!

      why not?
      sounds like they dont care if you redistribute it, you just cant sell it.

  3. Slashdot by the+uNF+cola · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A band from the 80's, just trying to make ends-meat, and you link them to slashdot. Hopefully the publicity will skyrocket whatever profits they can make, instead of just incuring heavy ISP costs.... looked like an independent site.

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  4. why do people even bother zipping mp3s? by jbellis · · Score: 2, Funny

    You get what, an extra 1% compression? Sheesh.

    1. Re:why do people even bother zipping mp3s? by aheath · · Score: 5, Informative
      Sometimes it's easy forget that there is more to ZIP utilities than file compression.

      It makes sense to zip multiple uncompressible files in order to package related files. This simplifies the download process for someone who wants to receive all the .MP3 files and artwork files in a single download. This practice goes back to the early CP/M BBS days and such utilities as LU the "Library Utility."

      ZIP utilities can also be used to control the presentation of a download. In a previous job, I packaged software updates for download. I often created self-extracting archives with an explicit recommended decompression path. This made life a lot easier for the person downloading the file. This also made it easier support person who had to walk someone through a software upgrade.

    2. Re:why do people even bother zipping mp3s? by arose · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can also download individual songs.

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    3. Re:why do people even bother zipping mp3s? by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Habit maybe, because at one time zipping mp3s was necessary, or at least stopped a lot of inconvenience.

      For a long time, the default mime.types in web servers did not have the .mp3 extension. They were served as the server default, normally text/plain. This was bad, because if it was text/plain the client would then try to translate line endings, gorking the file... (errr "cooking" was the actual parlance). There was a utility called Uncook.exe that was popular for a while. It would try to undo this translation, looking for every CR-LF pair, assuming it came from this "cooking" and return it to a LF. Youcould getthe music, but a P.I.T.A. Eventually, people realized that .zips were pretty much always handled right (application/anything is never linefeed translated) and was a convenient file type for Windows users. Sometimes the files were actually zipped, sometimes they were just renamed to fool the web server into serving it as application/something.

    4. Re:why do people even bother zipping mp3s? by spike2131 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In terms of being more appropriate technology, yes, tar is better for the purpose than zip. In terms of being something that the average luser will be able to figure out how to use, zip is by far the better choice.

      Zip is easy, people recognize zip. People use WinZip. Windows XP's treatment of zip files is so similar to treatment of directories, a lot of people might not even notice the difference.

      Tar is confusing; people aren't used to it. Non-techies don't know what it is, much less what circumstances it is a more appropriate technology for the purpose than zip. People don't have, or don't know they have, software that can handle tar.

      The word "Zip" reminds people of bringing things together, of speed and efficiency. Of zip disks. The word "Tar" reminds people of black, sticky goo.

      Ultimately, tar (and .gz, .bz2, etc) is for geeks, and .zip is for everyone else who doesn't want to hassle with having to know about a bunch of differnt file formats.

      It would be nice if more users were educated as to why tar is a better option, but they are not. Anythingbox is just trying to distribute their music; they could use .tar to make it a teaching moment, or they could use .zip, which everybody understands, and appeals to the widest possible audience.

      So for this application - precious seconds of compression time be dammed - zip is better.

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    5. Re:why do people even bother zipping mp3s? by droopus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Other than a convenient way to gather multiple tracks together, to prevent these guys from doing this kind of stuff.

      Yep, little old Winzip is the Sharpie for this expensive DRM.

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  5. This is what we've been looking for people by Cali+Thalen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not my kind of music, but if you like it...this is they way we've been hoping thigs would start to go. If there's anyplace on their site where you can donate a couple bucks to help support the band, it would be a good idea.

    We DO want to encourage this kind of thing, and the only way to do that is if they can make a little profit from it.

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  6. Introspective? by mrAgreeable · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't know their music to say just how introspective their songs may be, but since this is a collection of previously released songs I think it's fair to say the word you're looking for is "retrospective."

  7. 10 maximum on their FTP server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are less than 10 of us on Slashdot, right?

    *cough*

    Mirror, mirror, who's got the mirror.

  8. It's not too bad... by phaln · · Score: 2, Informative

    But this has been available for 6 months. The first track is probably the best of the lot.

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  9. other recent free music by rehabdoll · · Score: 5, Informative

    There has been some "free anti-war" music recently.
    http://www.marchofdeath.com/ & http://www.beastieboys.com/

    Dont whine, its free! :)

    1. Re:other recent free music by Cplus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Peace Not War is a website dedicated to an album of anti-war music. Not available freely as teh others, but free to listen. The downside is that it does contain "self-evident" by Ani Difranco, which if you've never heard it before...........don't. Not her best work. Great tune by Massive Attack though.

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  10. Mirrors + I like to hear this news by jago25_98 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I hear the music I'll examine it as well and see how I can use it to create and mix with my own tunes.

    This sort of thing much appreciated.

    Could do with a few mirrors though eh? If only BITTORRENT/similar came with http/tcp-ip!?

  11. ROI? by Dylan2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So... can I give them money then or do I just download it? Where is their ROI? Despite what many Slashdotters seem to think on these threads you can't make a (good) album just by clicking a mouse over some menus a couple of times, it does take time, skill and talent. Just like coding, even with point-and-clicky IDEs.

    So maybe they don't want to make any money but I can just see a whole bunch of people using this as a precedent to force all musicians to give their work away for free.

    Put it this way, if they choose to do it, that's great, but if they do it for a full-time job they are not earning money for as long as it takes to the record. Who pays the bills during that time?

    This is exactly how software works, I don't see why it should be different for music.

    Again, great that we can get this album for free, but that doesn't mean *every* album *must* be free as well.

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    1. Re:ROI? by swazi · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Who pays the bills during that time?

      Maybe they're hoping for a live show or two getting slashdotted?

  12. Because it's bundled by yerricde · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Tar is available on every modern computing platform

    Unlike zip, tar is not bundled with Microsoft Windows ME and Microsoft Windows XP operating systems.

    and doesn't waste time trying to compress uncompressible files.

    Neither does zip -0.

    Sometimes it's easy to forget there's more to packaging utilities than ZIP.

    What other packaging format is supported by a program that comes bundled with the standard distribution of Microsoft Windows operating systems?

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    1. Re:Because it's bundled by themadmoney · · Score: 2, Informative

      i don't know what winzip you are using, but the version i have can definitely handle both tar and gzip files

      http://winzip.com/aboutzip.htm

    2. Re:Because it's bundled by De+Lemming · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't believe windows come with a zip utility.

      As the parent post mentioned, zip functionality is bundeled with WinXP and WinME. It's not a separate utility, but its integrated in Windows Explorer. In explorer, zip files open as normal directories (and by right clicking files in explorer you can zip them).

      So you don't need WinZip to handle zip files. But Windows doesn't know about tar or gzip files, so you still have to use WinZip for those.

  13. The Smiths marry the Pet Shop Boys by puto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ok, I just downloaded six of their songs from another source(ends with lite)

    Six songs should be enough to pass judgement.

    Listening to this makes me feel like I am the loner in a John Hughes movie that has been forsaken by the popular crowd but I am about to become cool and prove that even the geek can get the girl/friends/car/LAID/ scholarship, papal dispensation.

    It has the poppy vibe of the Pet Shop boys and the whininess of Morrisey after he has spent a night crying on his 'platonic' male friends shoulder(Michael Stipe, anyone else remember their fling, ewwwwww)

    I am an 80s child and love music and went to many concerts(BauHaus, SugarCubes, Cure, Smiths, Escape Club) And Black Flag, Femmes, Dayglow Abortions, Vandals. Did the whole punk thing, and no the Offpsring and Green Day are not punk bands. And the Police were doing ska before most you them were born.

    Cannot remember this band, I remember Kajagoogoo.

    Just when I thought I would never hear another whiney voice like Morrisey, I listen to this and wow, I am back in a dark bar with with everyone all dressed in black eating X and grinding up on each other. Smoking marlboro lights and pretending I am Andrew Macarthy in Less than Zero.

    Honestly it is better than the dance music you here in clubs today, it is soft on the ears and you can shake a leg to it. I could see being in a crowd and bopping to it, and maybe putting the moves on the old lady, kindy scmaltzy and sexy at the same time.

    As for buying it. Dunno, as I write this and I am listening to it and it grows on me. I might order it, cause it brings back some memories, and every now and then the old krewe and I embark on nights out fueled by memories, music, and other remnants of the 80s, and it would be a good cd to slip in.

    I give it an 8, cause you can dance to it. Denny Theriot, theres a man!

    Puto

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    1. Re:The Smiths marry the Pet Shop Boys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      it is soft on the ears and you can shake a leg to it. I could see being in a crowd and bopping to it, and maybe putting the moves on the old lady
      "Shake a leg"? "Bopping"? You know that people haven't talked like that in at least 20 years right?
    2. Re:The Smiths marry the Pet Shop Boys by Om242 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just to add to this:

      This has been one of my favorite bands since 1991. I've been to their concerts quite a bit, hung out with the band at an Austin gig, autographs, the works.

      They are mentioned on Slashdot? Freaking WIERD.

      Here's a little history of this band, in case your curious.

      This band is really a one hit wonder when it comes to popularity. Everyone remembers 'Living in Oblivion', their big hit (on their debut album) when their label was Epic.

      After that first album (and one hit) they had a fight with Epic and they got dropped. During this time, they recorded an album titled 'Worth'. It was never officially released, but if you can find it, I strongly recommend it. It was recorded when they visited Germany. Very depressing synthpop with a remake of a Beatles song on it.

      They had one more album after 'Worth', which was called 'Hope' (anyone seeing a trend?), which didnt have near the sales as the one hit wonder from Epic. Its VERY synth-pop-happy music. Almost bubble-gum synth. Very cool album if your into that sort of thing.

      At this point, Dania (the only chick in the band) left, and Claude (the singer, and main songwriter) split off and did a solo album under the band name: 'The Diary'. Very good stuff, I thought. He also released this album (and the previous Hope album) on his own label called 'Orangewerks'.

      Finally, after almost forgetting about this band (and the good times I had with friends at their concerts) they released another album around 1998. They dropped the synth deal, and went guitar (yikes!). It sucks, I thought, EXCEPT the song 'Heaven60', which is available for download now, as per the topic. Heaven60 is one of their best songs, and really shows the band maturing.

      HOWEVER, they tried one last ditch effort to get popular again by making a video for the song on their album titled '45'. Its a 45 second song, you see. Its also the lamest song I've ever heard. Claude hoped that MTV will give them at least 45 seconds of air time. The video is this cheese-fest! The band members are dressed up like robots (or something) playing on a stage in the Nevada desert with some carboard circular spiral thing behind them. uhhh... okay, whatever.

      Havent heard anything since that album until recently (about 2 months ago) I went to yet another Anything Box gig in Houston (at a goth club called 'Spy'). Their show completely sucked. I couldnt believe how far they had sunk. They ripped off the entire audience by singing about 4 songs, and ending the night with 'Living in Oblivion', the only song anyone else even gives a shit about, and walked off the stage. VERY un-Claude-like since he's a very cool person. Ahh well.. everyone has a right to suck every once in a while.

      Anyway, thats probably all the history you wanted (of the band you never heard of) for one night. All in all, the above reviewer pretty much has it right about this band. Its very very very 80s.

      Enjoy Heaven60.

      ++Om242

  14. Come on, 10 users? by ralphus · · Score: 4, Informative

    post a link on slashdot to a FTP site with a 10 user max? I'll be waiting months to download this.

    ERROR
    The requested URL could not be retrieved

    An FTP authentication failure occurred while trying to retrieve the URL: ftp://ftp.anythingbox.com/pub/album.zip

    Squid sent the following FTP command:

    USER anonymous

    and then received this reply

    Sorry, the maximum number of allowed clients (10) already connected.

    Your cache administrator is root.
    Generated Mon, 24 Mar 2003 00:41:47 GMT by localhost.localdomain (Squid/2.4.STABLE7)

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  15. If the program is not listed, click Other. by yerricde · · Score: 2, Insightful

    tar is far better for that kind of thing than zip

    Even if 90 percent of users will see nothing but an error message? "Click the program you want to use to open 'foo.tar'. If the program is not listed, click Other."

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  16. It occurs to me... by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that basically, as I have been led to understand it, the record companies make virtually all of the money on record sales. The money made by the artists truly comes from doing tours and other live performances.

    It seems to me that these guys are actually on to something. If they give the music away free, it does NOTHING to discourage anyone from coming to see them live. In fact, it goes a long way to encourage it with all the extra "good will" and generosity the band will be perceived with. THIS is the move bigger artists should experiment with at this point. I think it could at least be educational to test the notion.

    Forget about secure digital formats and all that DRM crap, let's share the art and go see their shows if we love'm! Let the band publish their own CDs and sell'm themselves from their web site using paypal as a convenient means of payment.

    Independent is the only way to keep the artists from being screwed, I think...

  17. Anything Box by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 4, Funny

    For a minute I thought this article was about an X-Box hack. Maybe one that would allow games from any other vendor to be played on the X-Box.

    Guess not.

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  18. Someone needs to introduce these folks to P2P by ewanrg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rather than trying to make their album available on their own site, they should have been led by their chief techie to the P2P networks. In fact, I suspect the folks at Sherman Networks would have loved to help promote this as another Legal use of Kazaa.

    So, anyone who's already posted this around and has the song list to look for?

  19. Public Enemy did an "Open Source" album by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Well, kinda anyway. It was called Revolverlution. They put some tracks out, including the title track and a lot of other old loop tracks that you could sample and mix. There was some deadline, and at the end, Chuck D. and Flav listened to all the tracks and took a couple of them on the album. Not a bad disk, worth getting. If for no other reason the track "Gotta Give The Peeps What They Need" was banned from MTV for the the words "free Mumia and H. Rap Brown". MTV said no, too political. PE said no editing, it goes out as is. Then MTV said "well, if you cut out the word 'free' then it's cool". Chuck said you gotta be crazy telling a black man he can't use the word free, and it never will get aired.

    They're very comfortable with the online stuff. They released their previous 2 albums online. They had a remix album called "Bring the Noise 2000". Def Jam didn't want to release it, didn't think there was a market. So Chuck and Flav said "hey we did the work already, let them hear the music" and released it on MP3, some server somewhere. Def Jam said no, said "even though we're not gonna release it, we OWN you, and you can't release it". Chuck got pissed, didn't like being owned by anyone, pulled the tracks (though a lot of people including me already had the tracks) and released the song "Swindler's Lust" with some pretty harsh elbows thrown at Russel Simmon's chest. This track and a few others got compiled to "There's a Poison Going On" which was released on MP3. Was $8 for a download, $10 if you wanted them to send you a disk - Chuck autographed those. Problem is, this was released on AtomicPop.com, which has since gone under. Was weird having an album you could get from Chuck and Flav for $8 (or like mine, for $10 with autograph) with all the money going to the artists, being sold at Virgin Megastore for $17.99, with maybe a buck going to them. No autograph even, such a gyp.

    Check out http://www.BringTheNoise.com/ for some of the history and some live rap feeds. http://www.PublicEnemy.com/ well, for Public Enemy.

  20. Information Society...? by bergeron76 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Didn't Information Society (Kurt Harland, et al) get them signed? I saw them open up for IS back in the mid 90's; and they were a really great band/show.

    Haven't heard anything from InSoc in the past few years, but I'm glad that there are still some 80's synth-pop-pro-techno's still around making good music and advancing the music industry with advanced distribution methods....

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  21. Re:What percent use a "modern ... decent OS"? by zulux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In that case, if you claim that the operating system in use on 95+ percent of the audience's computers is not a "modern computing platform", then whether or not tar is bundled with a "modern computing platform" is not all that relevant now, is it?

    95+ ! Hah - more like 90% and falling.

    Windows is marketshare in servers, desktops and developers keeps on sinking. It's will always be a somewhat viable choice for new-users, but the days of it's dominace are over.

    Microsoft has since released Windows XP Home Edition based on the NT kernel, which has fixed many of these issues.

    XP is a good effort against Microsoft's old operating systems, but against to other vendor's - it's a sad joke. Fuck - Apple makes a better Windows-compatable file-serving OS than the people who make Windows. That should tell you somthing.

    No super-computer runs Windows.
    No root domain server runs Windows.
    No satelite runs Windows.
    No large-scale database runs Windows.
    No cave system runs Windows.
    No militaty flight simulator run Windows.
    No bank runs it's federal transations on Windows.

    Of all the important thing that computers do - hardly anthing important runs Windows. There's a reason for this.

    Sure, MS has most the desktop video-game market, most of the simple spread-sheet market and simple document creation market to itself - but nothing really of importance.

    What percent of the band's audience uses a "decent OS" by your definition?

    10%. One in 10. Enough, that they should have a .tar .

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  22. I've got an idea. by CerebusUS · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let's post an ftp site with a 10 user limit to a website known for sending hundreds of thousands of connections per minute.

    I'd be willing to bet this link was even unavailable for those TotalSlashdot subscribers.

    I'd love to hear this music. if anyone is mirroring the zip file, please let us know.

  23. Music industry meddling == Lower Sales? by SecretAsianMan · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The article stated:
    ... how the music business in general operates. They manipulate the artists' work as well as take huge cuts of musicians' profits.
    That is so very true. My listening habits have evolved to the point where I listen only to artists who I respect as musicians. I don't want to listen to groups with any of the following qualities:
    • Created in a boardroom by suits
    • Sex symbolism more important than musicianship
    • Underdog in engineered, artificial controversy
    • Willing to change fundamental values to increase profit
    • Cannot write their own music
    • Inane, cliché-filled lyrics
    • No innovation
    What is bad for the music industry is that this makes my purchasing activities as limited as my listening activities. Because so many of today's alleged artists can answer "yes" to one or more of the above points, I simply don't buy very much music. I know many people who feel the same way. Certainly, we are outnumbered by consumers of the "fickle sheep" variety, but I do wonder how much money the industry loses because it refuses to address my wishes as a listener.

    One of my favorite quotes addresses this subject. It is from the Rush's "The Spirit of Radio" (words by Neal Peart (the drummer)).

    One likes to believe in the freedom of music,
    But glittering prizes and endless compromises
    Shatter the illusion of integrity
    I also like what Pink Floyd's "Have a Cigar" has to say about the music industry.
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  24. Re:What percent use a "modern ... decent OS"? by leviramsey · · Score: 2, Funny

    Only on Slashdot...:

    • Major site posts link to washed-up synthpop band (redundancy?) and their FTP server with 10 user maximum.
    • While twiddling thumbs, discussion of said synthpop band devolves into a .zip vs .tar flamefest.
    • Within three posts, said flamefest becomes a Windows vs. *n?x vs. Mac OS flamewar.

    Only on Slashdot. This is why I read Slashdot.